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Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by V99 »

josteink wrote: post #141
V99 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, base64-js and similar libraries are still needed (though probably not in this case...) because window.btoa() only works on latin1 ASCII strings. Try giving it some arbitrary UTF-8: btoa("\ud83d\ude0b") -> Uncaught DOMException: Failed to execute 'btoa' on 'Window': The string to be encoded contains characters outside of the Latin1 range. (Edit: apparently HN doesn't either; changed to \u...)

> FWIW, base64-js and similar libraries are still needed For what? This is a non-interactive text-only website. It shouldn't need anything beside HTML and CSS.

For the rest of the sentence... I was clearly referring to the question of why someone would use a library for base64 versus the built-in function. Not getting involved in the anti-js internet pitchfork mob.

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Post by srean »

us0r wrote: post #136
SubiculumCode wrote: post #41

When Google first came out and we tried it there were two things we liked about it. The first: Good search results. Yeah everyone knows that right. But young people today might have forgotten the second reason we liked Google search back then: The Second: A clean page with a single logo and search field. It loaded quick. There were no banners everywhere, no bs. HackerNews has that feel. It is clean, information dense…

Google seems to have forgotten this and now thinks its some kind of design company. Everything with the exception of adwords and analytics it has applied material to is now garbage. News use to be my default homepage but surprisingly MSN gives me a much better product with more then 4 stories on the page on 32" monitors.

Fully agreed.

I miss the Google of the “to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful” era.

Google Plus could have been fine if it wasn't rammed down user's throats. But no, every product had to integrate with it, had to look like it .... because ... Steve Jobs said so ? Then came Vic Gundotra with all the high craftsmanship of political empire building maneuvering and little else. Probably broke the original internal culture if it had survived till then (not sure).

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Post by SQL2219 »

kevmo wrote: post #247
mattwoodnyc wrote: post #217

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This format is ideal in this context, but the web is far larger than a digital ticker tape dispenser. Some publishers are seeking to create a modern version of Life magazine. What do imagine that would look like? How about National Geographic? I love, for example, what the teams at The New York Times are doing to enhance stories with creative uses of the modern web. The web is not broken, it’s simply revealing that t…

This is the highest-impact format with which one can consume news, though. Magazines are great, but lots of people are just looking for a quick shot of the current news. This sort of UI is ideal for that need. This is exactly why the Drudge Report has stayed relevant for 20 years.

But behind the curtain, Drudge is a freaking advertising hog.

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Post by err4nt »

akira2501 wrote: post #220
kalleboo wrote: post #133

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The Swedish public broadcaster still keeps their Teletext[0] service running. One of the cleanest way to get your news (especially on a TV where load times are zero). You can access it on the web as well https://www.svt.se/svttext/web/pages/100.html [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletext

It makes me pine for the days of Gopher.

What do you miss about Gopher?

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Post by jordache »

TomMarius wrote: post #155
josteink wrote: post #142

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The question wasn't why anyone was using Javascript on the server. The question was why a pure-text non-interactive website needs any javascript at all.

Because when you're treating React as a templating language, it's easier to let it run on the client side during development and add server rendering later.

i don't know react. Can you elaborate what you mean using React as a templating language? Are you saying react can be used sans any business logic and purely for template interpolation?

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Post by jordache »

The link to the full CNN experience at the bottom of each article doesn't deep link to that article's full experience. It just goes to the cnn home page. big fail

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Post by 1123581321 »

Jgrubb wrote: post #199
throw89825 wrote: post #102

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if you click Topics -> News[0] it takes 2.7 seconds. They should throw that subdomain behind https://memcached.org/ (and not use php lol). Unrelated, seems like I can't listen to podcasts. There's an tag (which doesn't use data unless you click on play if you set preload="none" [1]), so that's an interesting choice. $ curl http://thin.npr.org/t.php?tid=1001 [...] Total wall clock time: 2.7s $ ping thin.npr.org [...]…

You don't put things behind Memcached. You put Memcached behind things.

Varnish is an in-memory cache that sits in front of a site.

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by CaptSpify »

sotojuan wrote: post #223
thunfisch wrote: post #156

This is what the world needs. Seriously, I hate this trend to bloat up websites with the rage of a thousand suns. There is absolutely no value, but it increases bandwith usage, load times and CPU/RAM usage. News websites having "fancy, modern" websites actually make me think less of them. Fuck this web-bloat shit. The web is broken.

I wonder how many HN readers would be unemployed if the world went this way. It's pretty interesting to think that a good chunk of the people you comment with are the ones coding bloated websites (most likely not because they want to!).

I actually think that this would be one of the best outcomes of something like UBI. Devs and designers would no longer have to keep redoing websites just to justify their paycheck. They could spend times improving their sites only if they felt it was needed.
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