Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by sharmi » Sat, Sep 09, 2017, 10:38 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #27

sharmi wrote: post #10

1. Firefox 58 has considerable speed improvements 2. Firefox has much better support for tab customization like tree style tabs (not yet supported in 58, I think), multiple tabs, where you can close, move, reload multiple tabs together, copy url of selected tabs in custom format etc. 3. Reliable session recovery. With chrome , if you have more than one window each with multiple tabs, recovery of all windows is not gu…

Sorry, why 58? Nightly is on 57 only. What is landing in 58?

Yes, I meant 57, currently the nightly. I was typing on mobile and couldn't cross check. Sorry.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by xn--cr8h » Sat, Sep 09, 2017, 11:24 PM UTC

My favourite feature of Firefox that I haven't found in any other browser is the ability to capture, edit, and resend HTTP requests directly from the Developer Tools. Super useful.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by steveklabnik » Sat, Sep 09, 2017, 11:58 PM UTC

hobofan wrote: post #28

ksec wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, why 58? Nightly is on 57 only. What is landing in 58?

I don't know either. Might be the first release with Stylo, the new CSS engine written in Rust, but I can't really find any references to that.

Stylo is on by default for 57 at the moment.

WebRender is upcoming, but I don't think on-by-default anywhere.

(That said looks like maybe OP just mistyped.)

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by hobofan » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 6:42 AM UTC

steveklabnik wrote: post #43

hobofan wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know either. Might be the first release with Stylo, the new CSS engine written in Rust, but I can't really find any references to that.

Stylo is on by default for 57 at the moment. WebRender is upcoming, but I don't think on-by-default anywhere. (That said looks like maybe OP just mistyped.)

Does that also mean that Stylo will be the default in the release version of 57, if everything goes smoothly?

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by steveklabnik » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 2:23 PM UTC

hobofan wrote: post #44

steveklabnik wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stylo is on by default for 57 at the moment. WebRender is upcoming, but I don't think on-by-default anywhere. (That said looks like maybe OP just mistyped.)

Does that also mean that Stylo will be the default in the release version of 57, if everything goes smoothly?

That's my understanding, yes.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by pps » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 4:53 PM UTC

I'm using it (Nightly on OS X with stylo enabled) now, for the first time and I love it, it's faster than Chrome or it looks like it's faster, anyway, I simply want to use it even when almost all best plugins doesn't work currently. In the meantime stable version is almost unusable, I tried it couple of times, it was always lagging on page scroll.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by romanovcode » Tue, Sep 12, 2017, 11:48 AM UTC

Not contributing to googles botnet is good enough reason for me.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

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Post by drdaeman » Wed, Sep 20, 2017, 12:49 AM UTC

Davidbrcz wrote: post #3

- To promote and foster diversity between browsers. You don't want to end up with a new Internet Explorer called Chrome. - Google has already its hands on so many things. If I can prevent it from controlling my browser, I'm good. - I HATE chrome UI and look & feel - With FF, I can syn my tabs between several devices while hosting my own sync service . - Google is not beyond Firefox. I like more Mozilla than Google.

> while hosting my own sync service

A late reply but I thought I'd chime in.

You also need to host your own accounts service and all its dependencies (assets, tokenserver, profile), unless you trust Mozilla to be not forced/coerced to compromise your security. Even with auto-updates disabled, the Firefox Accounts login form is served from the network, so a paranoid user must be very cautious if any of their browsers suddenly asks to re-authenticate.

Also, note that Sync is now consists of two pieces: there is Sync 1.5 server and there is Kinto (which is used to store WebExtensions data). This is usually not mentioned in the "host your own Sync 1.5 server" articles, but here are the details: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CloudServices/Sync/ExtensionStorage...

If you're fully self-hosting you need to install the latter as your tokens aren't working for Mozilla's one (so basically your WE-based extensions can't sync anything). If you're only hosting your own Sync but not Accounts, you should be aware that some of your data is stored at Mozilla's services instead of your own server.