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Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by bradleyankrom » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:31 PM UTC

thunfisch wrote: post #156

This is what the world needs. Seriously, I hate this trend to bloat up websites with the rage of a thousand suns. There is absolutely no value, but it increases bandwith usage, load times and CPU/RAM usage. News websites having "fancy, modern" websites actually make me think less of them. Fuck this web-bloat shit. The web is broken.

death to auto-playing video always and forever... CNN's site is especially bad about that, as I've experienced cases where I stop the "big" video at the top of the page and scroll down, only to have it start back up again when it moves to the sidebar.

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by scholia » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:34 PM UTC

shakna wrote: post #99

zaszrespawned wrote: post #95

Why not just use RSS? This is time and effort wasted. Given RSS is old, text only and has XML its very lightweight, has good support and fast readers. No heavy javascript needed as readers of RSS are often native apps or browser plugins

> as readers of RSS are often native apps or browser plugins That's probably why. Most people can barely drive their web browser, and many tech people are reluctant to install new extensions, because of trust issues. A web page, in a nice pure form like this, is fast, responsive, and easy to use.

You can get news feeds as a web page in various places such as Dave Winer's River of News http://radio3.io/rivers/

Light, ad-free and totally trustworthy ;-)

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:36 PM UTC

thunfisch wrote: post #156

This is what the world needs. Seriously, I hate this trend to bloat up websites with the rage of a thousand suns. There is absolutely no value, but it increases bandwith usage, load times and CPU/RAM usage. News websites having "fancy, modern" websites actually make me think less of them. Fuck this web-bloat shit. The web is broken.

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Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by golfer » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:36 PM UTC

tosser350 wrote: post #169

us0r wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google seems to have forgotten this and now thinks its some kind of design company. Everything with the exception of adwords and analytics it has applied material to is now garbage. News use to be my default homepage but surprisingly MSN gives me a much better product with more then 4 stories on the page on 32" monitors.

Google seems to care more about manipulating the masses than they do performance/profit. The fact they admit to passing over objectively better candidates to hit quotas proves this. I'd say what you mention is probably a side effect of that.

"admit to passing over objectively better candidates"

I'd love to see your citation on that claim.

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by schmappel » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:40 PM UTC

I realize this kind of defeats the purpose, but I applied just a tiny bit of CSS (and Open Sans) to make it look slightly better. Here's the userstyle in the hope it's useful to some:

https://gist.github.com/appel/7a475dcbd3f469d73c756385b2c7cf...

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by ourcat » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:41 PM UTC

rsp1984 wrote: post #165

This is cool but for some reason (maybe reading too much HN!) I clicked and expected a demo or research paper about a Convolutional Neural Net (CNN) that you can feed lots of text and it would figure out the content and semantic relationships of all the texts on its own and it would get better with every new text that you feed it. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if someone's already done that...

You should see this. "Epic 2014" : https://youtu.be/Bt3TmUW90B8

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by chewzerita » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:41 PM UTC

doesn't work in emacs eww

0/10

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by rovr138 » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:43 PM UTC

otalp wrote: post #115

hollander wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know why, but many times Google just doesn't load here. I always open a private tab in Firefox to get rid of cookies easily, then load Google, and I don't know if this is the reason but after a while it just stops. Duckduckgo is (for me) the new google in terms of speed, but the search results are not the same quality.

Duckduckgo is very slow for me when it comes to opening things in a new tab(Safari on a laptop). It takes several second for the right click options to come up when right clicking.

Maybe a plug-in? I use Safari and dont have that issue right clicking.

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by tomahunt » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:44 PM UTC

Is there somewhere an index of text-only pages?

Re: Text-only CNN

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Post by fdej » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 12:44 PM UTC

zephyrfalcon wrote: post #148

epigramx wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The second reason was the predominant reason. We already had a lot of options for search results with search engines like Altavista/aggregate sites. It's the simplicity of Google that made Google. PS. It's also the reason Google now is increasingly less special (but they do try to keep it simple when they can, subtly).

I'm not sure that was the predominant reason. The search results were also a hell of a lot better than AltaVista, Lycos, Yahoo and whatever else was around back then.

Google was a huge improvement because if you searched for Foo Bar Baz it would only give you pages that had all the words Foo, Bar and Baz whereas AltaVista et al. would give you pages containing any of the words, if memory serves. But the speed was a huge deal too, especially on a 56k modem (and the thing had to be rendered in IE4 on a Pentium II too, let's not forget).