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Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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I am curious what programmer would make such a choice vs. calling random or asking the user. However, while undeniably stupid, hopefully they have rate limiting in place so guessing the PIN would not be feasible even if you know the day the credit freeze was put into place.

maybe there was no way to save and transfer the pin from one place of the system to another, and the only way to do it is to guess on the other side by timestamp. pretty hacky implementation but oh well

Hash with a secret key (a pepper) solves that. Heck, hashing with a salt or even just plain hashing would be miles better than this.

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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Something worth taking into consideration is these companies are not Engineering/Tech companies at the core. They were probably born as paper-companies and digitized their operations later on. I am hoping for the day something and more appropriate for this age will make them irrelevant.

> are not Engineering/Tech companies

Which means each and every line of code was written by the lowest bidder.

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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This is embarrassing at this point; a credit authority printing dividends is too busy placating shareholders to even pretend to give a shit about the data of the people who _involuntarily_ have their PII stored on their platform.

Whoever files a class action should make a motion such that anyone can purge their PII from a credit authority that's experienced a public hack such that their PII was exposed, or some other sort of incentive for these too-big-to-improve companies to do their job

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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post #3

I am curious what programmer would make such a choice vs. calling random or asking the user. However, while undeniably stupid, hopefully they have rate limiting in place so guessing the PIN would not be feasible even if you know the day the credit freeze was put into place.

They don't want to migrate their db to add an extra field?

Or add a new table with this field.

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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It's time to have a mandatory certification for people who develop critical systems. After such certification, you can consider such an implementation a malpractice, and sue them for it (of course the penalty is paid by the insurance company which sold the malpractice insurance). Doctors, lawyers, and many other professions have such system, why can't we have it as well?

Developers don't control budgets and deadlines at large companies, management does. So what does this "certified" individual do when he's given a project without resources allocated for proper security auditing? Does he intentionally get fired for refusing the assignment? That works if he has bountiful savings, no mortgage, no kids. Surely no unethical contracting company will pick up the job after he leaves...

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

#27

This is embarrassing at this point; a credit authority printing dividends is too busy placating shareholders to even pretend to give a shit about the data of the people who _involuntarily_ have their PII stored on their platform. Whoever files a class action should make a motion such that anyone can purge their PII from a credit authority that's experienced a public hack such that their PII was exposed, or some other…

> too-big-to-improve

Love that!

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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post #23

Something worth taking into consideration is these companies are not Engineering/Tech companies at the core. They were probably born as paper-companies and digitized their operations later on. I am hoping for the day something and more appropriate for this age will make them irrelevant.

> are not Engineering/Tech companies Which means each and every line of code was written by the lowest bidder.

Or CEO/CTO's buddy's company

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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It's time to have a mandatory certification for people who develop critical systems. After such certification, you can consider such an implementation a malpractice, and sue them for it (of course the penalty is paid by the insurance company which sold the malpractice insurance). Doctors, lawyers, and many other professions have such system, why can't we have it as well?

Developers don't control budgets and deadlines at large companies, management does. So what does this "certified" individual do when he's given a project without resources allocated for proper security auditing? Does he intentionally get fired for refusing the assignment? That works if he has bountiful savings, no mortgage, no kids. Surely no unethical contracting company will pick up the job after he leaves...

If only there were more software jobs out there, then they wouldn't be hemmed in so intractably.

Re: Equifax security freeze PINs are the timestamp of when you request the freeze

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Something worth taking into consideration is these companies are not Engineering/Tech companies at the core. They were probably born as paper-companies and digitized their operations later on. I am hoping for the day something and more appropriate for this age will make them irrelevant.

Even all-paper companies back in the day had ops.
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