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No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

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Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

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I have now placed freezes [1] on my accounts with each of the four agencies.

It is perplexing to pay $5-10 to each of these companies that have collected my data without my permission to stop the sale of that data. In particular after they have mismanaged that data and put me at risk.

They will probably see a large surge in revenue based on this breach.

[1] https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0497-credit-freeze-faq...

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

#62
post #57

In Sweden your social security number is public information. What's the reason for it being private in the US? Sounds like a horrible thing to rely on for security anyway.

The banking industry decided to, in effect, use it as an authentication token. Even though it was stated that it should not be used for such.

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If all they need is a database of basic consumer info, they could buy that list from one of the other credit reporting agencies and avoid the public scrutiny of themselves and the industry itself.

Why would one of the other two sell it to them?

avoid the public scrutiny of themselves and the industry

They'd probably give it to them for free if that would avoid a huge public disclosure.

Though the proposed scenario is impossible, if Equifax really did lose most of their database, asking users to type in their current name/address/SSN (or buying it from a competitor) wouldn't help them, the valuable data is in the credit history, and without that data, Equifax has no business, so they'll go bankrupt. Even if they asked consumers for the data, few people know all of the data that the credit agencies have on them.

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

#65
"New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman has hammered Equifax for using language meant to discourage arbitration and is asking Equifax for answers over the data breach. The company has stated since it would not bar consumers from joining breach-related lawsuits."

Is anyone else mortified that this is the reality? Where companies are allowed to dictate how much legal privilege we have to seek legal recourse if they legitimately screw up?

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

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post #20

I will be blunt, and I am very incensed by this. My comments ... https://twitter.com/hpcjoe/status/906549917509980160 This is an extinction level event for Equifax. They need to be disassembled, their stored data destroyed correctly and securely, their negligent officers charged. This isn't an accident. You don't surface 0.134 BILLION bits of PII without some sort of criminal level incompetence. Any organization that…

> 0.134 BILLION So 134 Million then. I mean that's still an extreme amount of bits ofc. Just seems silly to use the "billion" signifier for something that is less than 1 billion. Likewise it'd be strange to call something "1000 milliunits" instead of just 1 unit. (Unless ofc milli happens to be the frame of reference for some obvious reason like "15 millunits of x is a deadly dose".)

This is stylistic. It's basically setting a scale factor for you, that this isn't a small breach, but a noticeable fraction of a billion. I could have written it as 1.34E+08 though fewer people would have understood this, though it would have been as correct. 134 Million is obviously "alot", though from a psychological perspective, the billion gets more attention than the million, even though the number isn't changing.

Again, stylistic.

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

#67
post #57

In Sweden your social security number is public information. What's the reason for it being private in the US? Sounds like a horrible thing to rely on for security anyway.

In the US, a combination of personal information is taken by most as proof that you are who you claim to be. If you know enough of someone else's information, you can steal money rather easily. We need a better identity solution, but it's what we have right now.

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

#68
post #48

So basically Equifax now is engaging in fraud on massive scale. It needs to be dealt with the same way as we dealt with this company called Arthur Anderson.

Allow them to rebrand?

Hey now. Accenture is a totally different company. They have reliable analysts who do good work.

/s

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

#69
post #20

I will be blunt, and I am very incensed by this. My comments ... https://twitter.com/hpcjoe/status/906549917509980160 This is an extinction level event for Equifax. They need to be disassembled, their stored data destroyed correctly and securely, their negligent officers charged. This isn't an accident. You don't surface 0.134 BILLION bits of PII without some sort of criminal level incompetence. Any organization that…

> 0.134 BILLION So 134 Million then. I mean that's still an extreme amount of bits ofc. Just seems silly to use the "billion" signifier for something that is less than 1 billion. Likewise it'd be strange to call something "1000 milliunits" instead of just 1 unit. (Unless ofc milli happens to be the frame of reference for some obvious reason like "15 millunits of x is a deadly dose".)

He could have also said ~2% of the world's population.

Re: No matter what, Equifax may tell you you’ve been impacted by the hack

#70

I have now placed freezes [1] on my accounts with each of the four agencies. It is perplexing to pay $5-10 to each of these companies that have collected my data without my permission to stop the sale of that data. In particular after they have mismanaged that data and put me at risk. They will probably see a large surge in revenue based on this breach. [1] https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0497-credit-freeze-faq…

Whats the fourth? I just know of Equifax, Experian, Transunion.
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