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Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

#1
Now that Firefox's UI is becoming more and more like Chrome's, why should anyone continue to use Firefox?

I'm thinking the reasons might have something to do with:

  - Lower memory usage compared to Chrome [1]
  - Increasingly more of it being written in a fast and memory-safe language, Rust [2]
  - Not belonging to a for-profit company [3]
Would also be nice to know what plans Mozilla has for Firefox in the longer term. Once Firefox becomes a near Chrome clone written in Rust, what comes next?

[1] - https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/firefox-uses-less-memory-chrome-edge-safari/

[2] - https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation

[3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

#2
I don't use either (I use Safari) but if Firefox became a more memory efficient chrome from a company besides google, that still sounds better than chrome.

Google is and for the foreeeable future will be an ad network first and foremost.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

#3
- To promote and foster diversity between browsers. You don't want to end up with a new Internet Explorer called Chrome.

- Google has already its hands on so many things. If I can prevent it from controlling my browser, I'm good.

- I HATE chrome UI and look & feel

- With FF, I can syn my tabs between several devices while hosting my own sync service .

- Google is not beyond Firefox. I like more Mozilla than Google.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

#5
Container tabs[0] (currently an experiment) will hopefully stick around. That alone is reason enough to use it from my point of view. Paired with Cookie AutoDelete it is the most control I've ever had over my privacy in a browser and it feels good.

Fx's new CSS pipeline and the other stuff they're porting from Servo is amazingly cool. Not just tech wise that they can pull this off but the benefits it brings means Fx has a decent chance surpassing other browser's performance, in a few places it already does.

I have control over my data. With Chrome I don't, I'd have to rely on Chromium to be sure and keeping Chromium up to date is tedious.

I used to only use Safari but ever since Firefox 57 showed up (the curently nightly) it's been my daily driver and it's absolutely awesome.

[0]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Projec...

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

#7
Couple reasons: - Some of the add-ons which are privacy focused are not available in chrome (although with the move to webextensions this may go away) - Momentum. I resisted switching to chrome when it first came on the scene because I didn't want Google having access to my browsing history. That fear has abated, particularly since I owned several Chromebooks, but I've always used Firefox on my Windows and Linux desktops. It still does what I need it to do. - Firefox for Android allows installing extensions, specifically ublock. This was critical for me, and so since I know I'll keep using Firefox on mobile, it's advantageous to keep using Firefox on desktop for syncing.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

#9
Chrome stopped all updates (including security) for older Windows versions some years ago. Firefox gets security updates just fine so far (I believe Vista support will get dropped soon). Windows 7 support will continue for a while. I switched my parents' Windows laptops to Firefox 2 years ago.

Firefox on Android (and the new Firefox Focus) feels faster and lighter on resources. I prefer Firefox on my Android devices.

For me, a third reason is that Chrome has started segfaulting big time on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS laptop. This started very recently. Switched to Firefox.

Aside from all that, for me it's just the principle that it's better to encourage multiple excellent feature-rich cross-platform browsers instead of ending up with a monopoly.

Re: Ask HN: Why continue to use Firefox?

#10
1. Firefox 58 has considerable speed improvements

2. Firefox has much better support for tab customization like tree style tabs (not yet supported in 58, I think), multiple tabs, where you can close, move, reload multiple tabs together, copy url of selected tabs in custom format etc.

3. Reliable session recovery. With chrome , if you have more than one window each with multiple tabs, recovery of all windows is not guaranteed. Firefox on the other hand has a versatile session restore process. I sometimes have 6 or more nested session restores. Only thing affected is your sanity, when going through all the tabs. Also, in firefox, when recovering, the pages are not loaded unless the user purposefully navigates to the page, saving memory.

Firefox also supports hundreds of tabs easily. It is THE browser for tab hoarders.

4. Chrome on android does not allow extensions. So no ublock origin on Chrome mobile. That leaves a bad taste in the mouth. For that and other reasons cited by other answers here, I do not trust Chrome on desktop either.

5. Certain features on Web developer tools are better in firefox. I use both firefox and chrome for this interchangeably.

6. I like that typing in address bar checks only in history and bookmarks and the search bar is separate. In chrome, I often notice that search is given more priority over history. What is one hop in firefox becomes two in chrome: first to the search page, then the actual website.

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