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U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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Post by jpindar »

FidelCashflow wrote: post #88

I make the argument that the majority of our interactions with law enforcement (for those of us who are otherwise generally well mannered) stem from some driving related instance. This is the true pathway for most of us to get tangled up in the [broken[ revolving door of the legal system. I am 100% all for self driving cars and look forward to owning one as soon as there are no controls for me to interact with at any…

They'll find some reason to pull you over. Police departments (and courts) aren't going to give up their revenue stream so easily.

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Post by stale2002 »

chimeracoder wrote: post #24
stale2002 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who pay for self driving car accidents will be the same people as those that pay for them today. The insurance companies. Only now, these insurance companies will be paying 1/4th the amount of money they were before, because of the reduced number of accidents.

> The insurance companies Which insurance company, under whose policy? That's the question. It makes a big difference to the people involved, because it affects the policies they buy and how much they cost.

Any and all of them.

An insurance company would likely offer to cover all self driving accidents for free. This is because it would be a small cost to them, and would encourage you to use the self driving mode more often, which would cause you to get in less accidents.

Why WOULDN'T an insurance company cover all this stuff for free? It literally would save them billions.

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Post by stale2002 »

TuringNYC wrote: post #17
stale2002 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who pay for self driving car accidents will be the same people as those that pay for them today. The insurance companies. Only now, these insurance companies will be paying 1/4th the amount of money they were before, because of the reduced number of accidents.

That is not quite how it works in most US states. Insurance companies cover up to a maximum amount, which is usually enough to cover all damages. However, when the maximum amount is breached, the cost is then bourne by some party which "caused" the accident. Suppose the "driver" of the SDC isnt even driving -- who is that other party? The manufacturer? The algo writer?

Or what if the insurance company just offers to pay for all of it for free?

It would save the insurance companies billions of dollars to do this, as it would encourage their drivers to stay in self driving mode which will be way safer.

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Post by droidist2 »

FidelCashflow wrote: post #88

I make the argument that the majority of our interactions with law enforcement (for those of us who are otherwise generally well mannered) stem from some driving related instance. This is the true pathway for most of us to get tangled up in the [broken[ revolving door of the legal system. I am 100% all for self driving cars and look forward to owning one as soon as there are no controls for me to interact with at any…

Exactly, "Stop and Frisk" has no equivalent for drivers because it's already understood/accepted that the police can pull you over at any moment for a variety of reasons.

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Post by 1337biz »

redler wrote: post #107
Retric wrote: post #79

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Most presidents would, but they don't create the budget.

And even if a budget were somehow allocated, much of it would be deferred into subsequent congressional terms. An 11- or 12-figure project that has to survive multiple presidential and congressional terms would be no easy feat.

I don't think he is interested much in the presidential terms coming after his 4 or 8 years. The most vivid example for that problem is the Iran hostage crisis which led arguably to the election loss of Carter (while he put massive effort into that issue) but only a few days after his loss and into Reagan's presidency, the hostages were released.

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Post by tehlike »

TuringNYC wrote: post #14
tehlike wrote: post #8

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algo writer should not be liable, unless it's gross negligence or conscious cover up (like VW cases). However, i can imagine a set of guideliness adopted into industry which involves slow rollouts of updates (potentially in a multivariate testing manner controlling for speed variance/distribution, response time, collision proximity (?) or collisions avoided, distance traveled, user comfort score, and so on. In other…

Your response makes sense, but that is usually not how the legal system works...i'm curious if all sorts of tangentially or abstractly related parties will be pulled into many lawsuits and then promptly dropped. No ultimate impact w/r/t/ judgements, but a lot of wasted time and legal defense costs.

For sure. I can imagine businesses simply outsourcing the legal costs to insurance companies.
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