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Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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Really cool "green lightning" effect observed before and during the earthquake: https://mobile.twitter.com/AlanEchelon96/status/906031454529... I believe this phenomenon is still not understood...

It's from damage to the electrical grid.

This is what you call "a theory", but it's one with no evidence to back it up. Can you point to other videos of electric grid damage that look similar?

The idea of "Earthquake lights" is also a theory, but it's becoming increasingly more likely these days as evidence piles up.

Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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How do they appropriately measure earthquakes so deep? It had a magnitude of 8.1 on the surface level, however it happened at a depth of 32000 meters! so was it a magnitude 9 earthquake down there, or does the 8.4 already take into account the depth?

Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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I appreciate those kinds of quick release cycles. I'm hoping that when they upgrade to 9.0 we get some new features though.

Each point release just about doubles the force of the earth quake. Makes me wonder how my mom handled the Good Friday one in Anchorage, which was at 9.2.

Actually, it takes around 0.3 to double to power.

Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's from damage to the electrical grid.

This is what you call "a theory", but it's one with no evidence to back it up. Can you point to other videos of electric grid damage that look similar? The idea of "Earthquake lights" is also a theory, but it's becoming increasingly more likely these days as evidence piles up.

> This is what you call "a theory", but it's one with no evidence to back it up. Can you point to other videos of electric grid damage that look similar?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here, have you not seen high voltage lines blow up before personally? Or are you just making a point in this regard? Because the flashes of lights you see on the horizon etc during a heavy storm knocking over transformers and main lines is a pretty widely known thing.

I don't understand why you're demanding evidence of it, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29O9rzJZurQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLVFyhyghZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqAGYXwj6XM

etc

Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what you call "a theory", but it's one with no evidence to back it up. Can you point to other videos of electric grid damage that look similar? The idea of "Earthquake lights" is also a theory, but it's becoming increasingly more likely these days as evidence piles up.

> This is what you call "a theory", but it's one with no evidence to back it up. Can you point to other videos of electric grid damage that look similar? I'm not sure what you're getting at here, have you not seen high voltage lines blow up before personally? Or are you just making a point in this regard? Because the flashes of lights you see on the horizon etc during a heavy storm knocking over transformers and main…

Hah, the guys in the first one are funny:

"Something's definitely going wrong there."

"Definitely... Do you think it's a new nightclub?"

Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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I appreciate those kinds of quick release cycles. I'm hoping that when they upgrade to 9.0 we get some new features though.

That's a really bad joke.

Actually earthquake quick release cycles are very good for humans as it prevents bigger earthquakes in the future. Same with volcanoes.

Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is what you call "a theory", but it's one with no evidence to back it up. Can you point to other videos of electric grid damage that look similar? I'm not sure what you're getting at here, have you not seen high voltage lines blow up before personally? Or are you just making a point in this regard? Because the flashes of lights you see on the horizon etc during a heavy storm knocking over transformers and main…

Hah, the guys in the first one are funny: "Something's definitely going wrong there." "Definitely... Do you think it's a new nightclub?"

Haha, I'm glad that's the best/worst of it... Posting videos from work without checking the audio can be a game of russian roulette at times

Re: Magnitude-8+ Earthquake, 87km SW of Pijijiapan, Mexico

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Really cool "green lightning" effect observed before and during the earthquake: https://mobile.twitter.com/AlanEchelon96/status/906031454529... I believe this phenomenon is still not understood...

It's from damage to the electrical grid.

This explanation is posted whenever earthquake lights are reported, but it's wrong. I have a few reasons:

First. So the explanation goes, during the earthquake power substation transformers and fuses blow, causing these lights. Problem is, the grid doesn't sustain that level of damage during these earthquakes. Yes, the power usually goes out and there is grid damage, but the amount of damage is nowhere near 'every substation blowing', even in the most severe quakes. So the number of lights and number of grid faults do not equal.

Second. Earthquake lights present in the sky, not on the ground beneath them. If substations were blowing and creating light, they would light objects in their immediate vicinity (e.g. buildings) more than they would illuminate clouds. But that doesn't happen, and in fact the lights appear within the cloud layers themselves rather than appearing as a projection onto them, as they would if the light source was at ground level.

Third. These lights have been witnessed out to sea and over offshore islands, where there is no power grid.

That last point is the most compelling for me, because I personally witnessed earthquake lights, less than a year ago, offshore, during the November 2016 7.8 Kaikoura earthquake. During that earthquake, I had this (night time) view: https://imgur.com/a/Nt2wD

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