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Re: Amazon to Build Second HQ in North America

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Except that I want to live in Atlanta even less than I want to live in Seattle. It has a kind of psychic oppression field over it that makes me want to immediately turn around and leave. Atlanta looks good on paper. It always does. But actually being in the city tells me a different story. That said, I think only Atlanta, NYC, Chicago, or Boston could absorb the extra demand for skilled employees without sucking the…

Nobody's going to Chicago. The state government is in shambles, and taxes are going way up. The state is flirting with insolvency. Boston and NYC are all developed expensive. Atlanta still has undeveloped area inside the city limits or old industrial areas that can be removed and replaced. Chattanooga wouldn't work because they want an international airport and major university. Atlanta has the world's busiest airpor…

Detroit has a rather large, comfortable, and underutilized international airport. U Michigan is close by, widely considered a top ten CS school.

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I think an East Coast city definitely makes the most sense. Realistically though, they probably can't get enough land in the ideal spot of NYC/Jersey meaning the next best options are DC, Philly and Atlanta. Baltimore could be a dark horse candidate. There's already a lot of construction going on there courtesy of Under Armour building out a new HQ. Charlotte could be an option as well.

Baltimore would be a great choice. Easy to draw talent from DC area -- housing prices much lower. Plenty of land both right in town (sad, actually) and in the suburbs. Would be a very big fish in town, and could do much to revitalize an entire city. World-class university in-town. Has a subway. DC right next door to lobby like crazy. And don't forget that Bezos has purchased a house in DC himself.

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OK, what are the options? Here's the list of the top 50 North American metro areas over the desired 1,000,000 population.[1] This gets down to the Nashville, TN area, at 1.8 million, so it's not the full list. Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Cuba are probably out, both for political reasons and being islands. Mexico is probably out given the current administration's positions. San Juan is on an island and too remo…

Mexico is probably out given the current administration's positions

I don't think the current administration would complain if thousands of mostly liberal tech workers moved to Mexico.

Re: Amazon to Build Second HQ in North America

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Except that I want to live in Atlanta even less than I want to live in Seattle. It has a kind of psychic oppression field over it that makes me want to immediately turn around and leave. Atlanta looks good on paper. It always does. But actually being in the city tells me a different story. That said, I think only Atlanta, NYC, Chicago, or Boston could absorb the extra demand for skilled employees without sucking the…

Nobody's going to Chicago. The state government is in shambles, and taxes are going way up. The state is flirting with insolvency. Boston and NYC are all developed expensive. Atlanta still has undeveloped area inside the city limits or old industrial areas that can be removed and replaced. Chattanooga wouldn't work because they want an international airport and major university. Atlanta has the world's busiest airpor…

Georgia State is a reasonable school as well, not as glamorous as GT or Emory though.

I'm certainly bias as I grew up in ATL, but the RFP seemed to be written for Atlanta to me.

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Indeed. but metro Atlanta area itself is very progressive.

True, but I'm not referring here to whether the local community is politically progressive. The issue isn't whether there is nice record shops and an NPR affiliate. I'm referring to the real possibility that Atlanta might become subject to laws that pretty much every corporation in America would consider a major downside when choosing where to site a HQ. I assume this is what they are referring to in the CFP when the…

Georgia is home to 17 Fortune 500 companies and a burgeoning film industry, it's not as "politically unstable" as you think. Mostly, money talks.

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That probably excludes anywhere outside of the NE or West Coast. Even then, the metro areas are blue, rest of the states are red, like everywhere else in the country.

> That probably excludes anywhere outside of the NE or West Coast. ding ding ding! My bet would be on Pittsburgh. Maaaaybe Minneapolis, Madison, Detroit or Philadelphia.

probably not madison considering the government there.

I'm also betting on pittsburgh or perhaps minneapolis.

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Southern Utah is way different/smaller than northern. Is there even a $1billion company HQ'd in southern Utah? I'm in Seattle but my company is HQ'd in Utah Valley. There is lots of tech talent in Northern Utah. Heck, Angular Conf and React Rally are in SLC every year for a reason.

Qualtrics, Domo, and InsideSales are in Utah Valley. Vivnt and Workfront are down there but aren't quite a billion yet.

None of those are in southern Utah. Utah Valley and SL Valley are Northern. Something like St. George would be southern.

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I believe you're thinking of taxpayer funded sporting events, e.g. NFL stadiums and Olympic games. There's a big difference between that and a legitimate business.

Nope, I was actually thinking of businesses e.g. automotive brands opening assembly/manufacturing plants.

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Amazon is planning to hire another 20,000 people in Seattle within 3 years, on top of the 40,000 they currently have there. Then another 50,000 HQ office workers at HQ2, so overall HQ staff is expected double within 5-10 years. (Even if some of the Seattle headcount shifts to HQ2, it'll still be close to a doubling.) It's mind boggling to me that they foresee their HQ staff doubling; I lack the imagination to guess w…

Transportation, including logistics and deliveries of course, but also innovative infrastructure to move people.

Also, vertical farming.

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I'll suggest a dark horse candidate: Indianapolis. Indy is close to two top 5 engineering colleges (UIUC and Purdue) and one top 10 business school (IU). Purdue has a unique product history with Amazon [1] and Amazon has four warehouses within an hour drive (though to be fair, that's true of a lot of cities). The city has seen major investment from outside tech companies like Salesforce [2], IAC [3], and others in re…

Unlikely. One of the requirements is daily direct flights to/from Seattle. Indy does technically have that but it's exactly 1 flight with poor timing for business considerations. They list a few other destinations as must-have nonstop flights, but I'm not sure how good those are. They're also putting a lot of stress on public transit, which is pretty abysmal in Indiana. They also don't want to sacrifice on some of th…

The state government has very recent precedent of subsidizing nonstop flights [1], because it recognizes that they are key to drawing external investment in the city. This year, taxpayers voted to add a new north/south rapid transit line [2]. Maybe more importantly; public transit isn't as important in indy as it is in other cities. Substantially lower cost of living and a more sparse downtown allows driving to be more affordable, the city has some of the best traffic [3] of any major metropolitan area worldwide, and it is very bike friendly [4] with the downtown trails and a growing downtown core.

[1] http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/09/06/delta-indi...

[2] http://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/marion-county/2017/...

[3] http://www.indianapolismonthly.com/the-hoosierist/hoosierist...

[4] https://www.rewardexpert.com/blog/studies/2017s-best-destina...

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