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Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
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Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sweden has a western side too, which is where we get all the delicious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandalus_borealis from.
Hey, you misspelled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstromming
It's only called strömming on the east coast. The same fish is called sill on the west and south coast.
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#33"We took some chronological samples in the summer and we received the results which showed that wood is oak from Sweden, and it was cut in the winter between 1612 and 1613, which is a really good, precise measure." I'm really curious about the analysis process involved here. Is C-14 dating that precise? How do they know it was oak from Sweden?
>How do they know it was oak from Sweden? Maybe it has something to do with good records-keeping back then- these ship-worthy oak trees were treasured and protected: "Oaks and cultural history Over the centuries, the oak has been a significant tree in Swedish life and in many ways Johan’s book is also a cultural history of the tree. Oaks were central, for example, to the shipbuilding industry during the reign of King…
Funny anecdote time!
The oaks mentioned in the article, on Visingsö, were planted in the early 19th century for future war ships. In 1975 the chief of the forest service called the chief of navy telling him the oaks were ready for harvest. For some reason he declined the offer, but thought it would be nice if the forest could be preserved, which it were.
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#34The article mentions that the ship may have participated in the Battle of Oliwa, though there is no mention of it in the manifest on Wikipedia[0]. Regardless, the battle (and the Polish-Swedish Wars in general) are historically very interesting in themselves, esp. given that they -- the Deluge in particular -- were a contributing factor in the fall of Poland.
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
>How do they know it was oak from Sweden? Maybe it has something to do with good records-keeping back then- these ship-worthy oak trees were treasured and protected: "Oaks and cultural history Over the centuries, the oak has been a significant tree in Swedish life and in many ways Johan’s book is also a cultural history of the tree. Oaks were central, for example, to the shipbuilding industry during the reign of King…
Funny anecdote time! The oaks mentioned in the article, on Visingsö, were planted in the early 19th century for future war ships. In 1975 the chief of the forest service called the chief of navy telling him the oaks were ready for harvest. For some reason he declined the offer, but thought it would be nice if the forest could be preserved, which it were.
A clear case of premature optimization.
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#36the Swedish kingdom power peak of 17th century when it conquered almost all of the land around Baltic and deep into Poland and modern Ukraine correlates nicely with the Little Ice Age. To the south, south/east of Baltic that was the time of "Deluge" when among other things rows of bad harvest years weakened the economy/society/state. Effects of climate changes :)
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
>How do they know it was oak from Sweden? Maybe it has something to do with good records-keeping back then- these ship-worthy oak trees were treasured and protected: "Oaks and cultural history Over the centuries, the oak has been a significant tree in Swedish life and in many ways Johan’s book is also a cultural history of the tree. Oaks were central, for example, to the shipbuilding industry during the reign of King…
Funny anecdote time! The oaks mentioned in the article, on Visingsö, were planted in the early 19th century for future war ships. In 1975 the chief of the forest service called the chief of navy telling him the oaks were ready for harvest. For some reason he declined the offer, but thought it would be nice if the forest could be preserved, which it were.
So, sometimes, in a century or two we figure out we were worrying about (and investing on) the wrong thing.
Well, there's always the recreational value of worrying.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, you misspelled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstromming
:) On a serious note, every other kind of shrimp I have tasted besides "northern prawn" (Pandalus Borealis) is just meh in comparison. To clarify: the rest of the culinary world use non-tasteful shrimp as taste carriers. Meanwhile, north sea shrimp are.. the primary source of taste, here. I think you will be surprised when you eventually taste it! That surströmming thing is mainly a bravado thing our northern people…
I was going to say - bah, in Canada we have exceptionally tasty shrimp on the west coast, sold directly from the boats and it will beat your borealis to a pulp. But then, just in case, I checked what your shrimp looks like and guess what - it's the same one! :)
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#39I warmly recommend everyone visit the Vasa museum in Stockholm https://www.vasamuseet.se/en Its a massive warship that capsized on her maiden voyage, and was raised in 1960s and is preserved in staggeringly amazing detail and completeness. Its absolutely gobsmackingly breathtaking :)
Amazing too, that the map in this article shows the ship was found directly across the water from the Vasa museum!
I second the Vasa recommendation. Absolutely fantastic.
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
:) On a serious note, every other kind of shrimp I have tasted besides "northern prawn" (Pandalus Borealis) is just meh in comparison. To clarify: the rest of the culinary world use non-tasteful shrimp as taste carriers. Meanwhile, north sea shrimp are.. the primary source of taste, here. I think you will be surprised when you eventually taste it! That surströmming thing is mainly a bravado thing our northern people…
I was going to say - bah, in Canada we have exceptionally tasty shrimp on the west coast, sold directly from the boats and it will beat your borealis to a pulp. But then, just in case, I checked what your shrimp looks like and guess what - it's the same one! :)
:) Do you know if there is a scientific name for the shrimp?
I'm thinking the cold water is the primary ingredient in having yummy shrimp.