Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
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Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#2I warmly recommend everyone visit the Vasa museum in Stockholm https://www.vasamuseet.se/en
Its a massive warship that capsized on her maiden voyage, and was raised in 1960s and is preserved in staggeringly amazing detail and completeness. Its absolutely gobsmackingly breathtaking :)
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#3Right next to museums. A very convenient find! :)
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#4Relevant random factoid: the Baltic Sea is almost completely enclosed by land and consequently unusually brackish (low in salt), which means a number of sea creatures common in saltier seas, most notably the shipworm, can't live there. Add in the fact that the water is really cold most of the year, and you get a large number of unusually well-preserved wooden wrecks, most famously the Vasa, that would have long go have been eaten away in any other ocean.
Speaking of eating, access to the salty Atlantic means that the Norwegians eat lots of shrimp, crab, mussels and even whale, none of which were historically available on the Baltic shores of Sweden or Finland.
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#5I briefly worked for a company at this little island, Skeppsholmen [1], a while back. It's beautiful and fairly hidden/quiet, despite being in central Stockholm. There's a hostel ship you can stay at too [2], which I highly recommend if you are in Stockholm on a budget. The Museum of Modern Arts [3] is quite good too, as far as museums in Stockholm go. As well as the Vasa Museum, which people have already mention.
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeppsholmen
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#6"We took some chronological samples in the summer and we received the results which showed that wood is oak from Sweden, and it was cut in the winter between 1612 and 1613, which is a really good, precise measure."
I'm really curious about the analysis process involved here. Is C-14 dating that precise? How do they know it was oak from Sweden?
Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#7I warmly recommend everyone visit the Vasa museum in Stockholm https://www.vasamuseet.se/en Its a massive warship that capsized on her maiden voyage, and was raised in 1960s and is preserved in staggeringly amazing detail and completeness. Its absolutely gobsmackingly breathtaking :)
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Re: Swedish King's 'forgotten' 17th-century warship found in central Stockholm
#8Relevant random factoid: the Baltic Sea is almost completely enclosed by land and consequently unusually brackish (low in salt), which means a number of sea creatures common in saltier seas, most notably the shipworm, can't live there. Add in the fact that the water is really cold most of the year, and you get a large number of unusually well-preserved wooden wrecks, most famously the Vasa , that would have long go h…
The interesting explanation for why it's the least saline sea in the world, is that there is a narrow outlet channel via Kattegat, and the volume of water from rivers with outlets in the Baltic far exceeds the amount of water that evaporates, so there is a constant outflow of water through Kattegat. So there's not much salty water backdraft. We have perch and ordinary grass growing in the Baltic - weird!
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#9"We took some chronological samples in the summer and we received the results which showed that wood is oak from Sweden, and it was cut in the winter between 1612 and 1613, which is a really good, precise measure." I'm really curious about the analysis process involved here. Is C-14 dating that precise? How do they know it was oak from Sweden?
Just as likely they analyzed the width of the growth rings. Trees in a given area will have similar high growth and low growth years.
And then there are big events where growth will correspond across wider regions.
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#10Relevant random factoid: the Baltic Sea is almost completely enclosed by land and consequently unusually brackish (low in salt), which means a number of sea creatures common in saltier seas, most notably the shipworm, can't live there. Add in the fact that the water is really cold most of the year, and you get a large number of unusually well-preserved wooden wrecks, most famously the Vasa , that would have long go h…
Sweden has a western side too, which is where we get all the delicious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandalus_borealis from.