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U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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Re: U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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On the one side - i find this quite extraordinary- a government ready to push new technologys, instead of inhibiting it- on the other (slightly paranoid) side- what is in it for the senators? Huge portions of traffic automated, because they really love new tech? Nah. They could have forwarded hyperloops and public traffic ages ago. Do they get a bonus point for the next vote? Certainly not, a large part of the popula…

I'm having trouble comprehending your fourth paragraph.

Re: U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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On the one side - i find this quite extraordinary- a government ready to push new technologys, instead of inhibiting it- on the other (slightly paranoid) side- what is in it for the senators? Huge portions of traffic automated, because they really love new tech? Nah. They could have forwarded hyperloops and public traffic ages ago. Do they get a bonus point for the next vote? Certainly not, a large part of the popula…

What's in it for them? Their campaigns probably got donations from lobbyists for the interest in question.

If you don't have HBO - http://www.newsweek.com/john-oliver-last-week-tonight-congre...

Similarly, the anti net neutrality congresspeople can be found simply by examining the amount of campaign funds raised from the fiber/cable/wireless providers.

The folks who voted against allowing importation of equivalent drugs into the USA from Canada - just have to look at pharma contributions to congresspeople.

Re: U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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Given that this is from a base of zero, and the cap is set to rise by 4x to 100k by 2020 (which is when Waymo plans to start introducing driverless cars), I do not think that this is at all a slow pace.

GM sells sells 10M cars per year so 100k would be 1% of that. Also who's Waymo? Tesla is planning to demonstrate a CA to NY trip with zero human intervention in just a few months and Elon has said they're shooting for 2019 for L5 FSD for their entire fleet made past October 2016 (they've already put in the hardware necessary for FSD so when the software is ready a simple OTA software update is all that's necessary fo…

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Re: U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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GM sells sells 10M cars per year so 100k would be 1% of that. Also who's Waymo? Tesla is planning to demonstrate a CA to NY trip with zero human intervention in just a few months and Elon has said they're shooting for 2019 for L5 FSD for their entire fleet made past October 2016 (they've already put in the hardware necessary for FSD so when the software is ready a simple OTA software update is all that's necessary fo…

> Also who's Waymo? You serious? It's Google's self-driving car company.

Was being sarcastic. Googles been working on their self driving cars for nearly a decade and they've only collected a few million miles of data whereas Tesla has BILLIONS of miles of data and they've only started working on their tech a couple years ago. Tesla's tech is way ahead of Google's. Waymo is overrated

Re: U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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post #51

On the one side - i find this quite extraordinary- a government ready to push new technologys, instead of inhibiting it- on the other (slightly paranoid) side- what is in it for the senators? Huge portions of traffic automated, because they really love new tech? Nah. They could have forwarded hyperloops and public traffic ages ago. Do they get a bonus point for the next vote? Certainly not, a large part of the popula…

I'm having trouble comprehending your fourth paragraph.

The idea is to take a new technology, that is bound to create horrible accidents, and push it faster forward then is its own pace - thus creating indirectly a surge of horrible accidents in the publics eyes, that would make the public rise against said technology.

A sort of - over-evaluation to kill a company- strategy.

Re: U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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> Also who's Waymo? You serious? It's Google's self-driving car company.

Was being sarcastic. Googles been working on their self driving cars for nearly a decade and they've only collected a few million miles of data whereas Tesla has BILLIONS of miles of data and they've only started working on their tech a couple years ago. Tesla's tech is way ahead of Google's. Waymo is overrated

Well, I think that's because Waymo hasn't shipped a self-driving car to the general public yet. My best guess is that they want to achieve level 4 before they make the tech available on a larger scale

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The people who pay for self driving car accidents will be the same people as those that pay for them today. The insurance companies. Only now, these insurance companies will be paying 1/4th the amount of money they were before, because of the reduced number of accidents.

I doubt it. If my self driving Subaru causes an accident, I think Subaru will pay for the damages. And Subaru doesn't need to involve an insurance company in that transaction.

Volvo have already made it clear that they will take responsibility for incidents caused by autonomous Volvos. I presume that this is at least partly a marketing tool because I would certainly prefer a clear commitment on the part of the manufacturer of any autonomous car that I might buy.

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GM sells sells 10M cars per year so 100k would be 1% of that. Also who's Waymo? Tesla is planning to demonstrate a CA to NY trip with zero human intervention in just a few months and Elon has said they're shooting for 2019 for L5 FSD for their entire fleet made past October 2016 (they've already put in the hardware necessary for FSD so when the software is ready a simple OTA software update is all that's necessary fo…

> they've already put in the hardware necessary for FSD so when the software is ready a simple OTA software update is all that's necessary for you're car to have full L5 autonomy That's bull. Every other company working on fully autonomous driving is using Lidar for obstacle detection, but Tesla's cars have none (only radar and cameras). I see no reason to think their software is any better than anyone else's (in fac…

> I see no reason to think their software is any better than anyone else's (in fact I would say Waymo almost certainly ahead of them there)

Waymo has 3 million miles of self driving data. Tesla has 3 BILLION. Perhaps that can be a reason?

Re: U.S. House approves proposal to speed the deployment of self-driving cars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was being sarcastic. Googles been working on their self driving cars for nearly a decade and they've only collected a few million miles of data whereas Tesla has BILLIONS of miles of data and they've only started working on their tech a couple years ago. Tesla's tech is way ahead of Google's. Waymo is overrated

Well, I think that's because Waymo hasn't shipped a self-driving car to the general public yet. My best guess is that they want to achieve level 4 before they make the tech available on a larger scale

Whatever their reasoning may be, they're still behind. WAY behind.

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Which is fitting that nobody says how many deaths will result from starvation that results by being fired from UPS and FedEx

UPS has 400,000 employees. Autonomous driving would pay itself off very quickly even if one of uber's cars personally murdered every single UPS and FedEx employee. Of course, the issue at play isn't joblessness, but the lack of a safety net for when people lose their jobs. Still, in the u.s., very few people actually starve to death, even when unemployed. Perhaps lack of health care will kill them all. But was their…

Staying with your parents isn't the idyllic life. I know from experience.

/// Inb4 you want to held back technology. ///

Technology's main focus should be improving peoples quality of living not maximizing profits and replacing employees with robots.

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