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Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
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Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#112Other comments say this guy should learn how to communicate better. I agree with that.
Knowing the person you're talking to helps greatly.
The average recruiter has a high school certificate and that's it. They're hired to do largely manual work comparing skills on resumes to skills on job positions.
Now that you know how they work you should ask yourself what's your goal? Is it to get that internship at Facebook? If so then how can I write my resume and cover letter to help me get the recruiters attention? Put the skills from the job listing on your damn resume.
Personally I'd dislike working with this guy. I can tell he's a smart guy but he's misdirecting his intelligence.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#113Good summary of difference between Linux and Unix:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-vs-unix-crucial-differenc...
"Mac OS X is also a certified Unix operating system".
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't you think the risk you are talking about in believing a 20 year old is exaggerated? Is it that hard to go back to the manager and ask if "Unix-like" is acceptable although the job description says "Unix"? Or just do a little bit of Googling to figure out if what the candidate is saying could have merit? From my perspective, it appears that the recruiter is the jerk and not the candidate. I have met many compute…
I Googled and I find that the candidate was wrong. The recruiter was right. AIX, Solaris and HP-UX are bonafide Unix systems and there indeed are software developers today who work with them. In any case, it is not very hard to write something like the following in the resume: POSIX, CentOS (Linux), Solaris (Unix), FreeBSD (Unix-like), etc. It is always good to be more specific about your skills in situations like th…
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Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#115Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#116Facepalm. Somebody show this to Zuck. Change needs to begin at the top. EDIT: Is it possible that they actually want people with actual UNIX experience? They are recruiting students. Maybe they want someone who has used an actual UNIX system on some kind of emulator for some sort of secret retro initiative. EDIT2: http://www.jbox.dk/sanos/pdp11.htm
Did you read the email exchange carefully? The Facebook recruiter did not ask for experience with the AT&T Unix systsem of 1970s. The candidate perhaps assumed that incorrectly.
Facebook asked for actual Linux and Unix experience which indeed many people who have worked on GNU/Linux systems like CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. and Unix systems like AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, etc. have.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#117In my home country we say sometimes it's better being smart than right. The recruiter is doing their job and antagonizing them, no matter how right you are, is not the smart move.
No - the recruiter is not doing their job. They are marking time in a role and collecting a paycheck, but decidedly not doing their job.
I disagree. There are probably 100 Stanley's in line for these positions and the recruiter is helping to weed out the smug ones. Part of his job.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#118> Beyond software developers who have programmed in the 1970s, most people do not have experience with a true UNIX OS, and I would find it hard to believe that such outdated technologies are underpinning Facebook's advanced innovations
Every OS X from 10.5 on except 10.7 has been certified under Version 3 of the Single UNIX Specification, and thus is officially considered to be UNIX.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#119In situations like these you really aught to ask yourself what your end-goal with being elitist like that is really trying to serve. In engineering situations usually the purpose is some form of disguised signaling. This is the purpose of most sentences that start with "technically". But when you're talking to a recruiter that kind of move is unlikely to be effective. It's unlikely to affect your application positive…
I disagree. It looks like the recruiter is clueless or maybe even trolling, and applicant was going out of their way to be helpful. They could have just updated their resume, and allowed the recruiter to remain ignorant, but imo that would have been very rude.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#120This is not the right attitude to bring in to the workplace. You'll have a range of people from executives, to clients to co-workers in other departments who don't know what UNIX, APIs and POSIX are. If you can't communicate technical matters nicely then you have not yet developed the right attitude for a professional working environment. It's the same thing with doctors when they create metaphors to explain complica…
There is an extremely fine line between speaking the layperson's terminology and lying. Wrong: "Yep, I have UNIX experience!" Right: "These days, the phrases 'UNIX' and 'UNIX-like systems' are used interchangeably. Please double check this with your hiring manager to confirm that we're on the same page."
Wrong: "Yep, I have UNIX experience!"
Right: "Yep, I have Unix experience! I have worked on Solaris which is a bonafide Unix system. I also have experience with Unix-like systems like FreeBSD and Debian GNU/Linux."