Somewhat on topic. Does anyone use actual Unix? Is it even something you can install anymore?
His response about the 70ies is off. I used IRIX, Solaris, and a bit of AIX in the late 90ies. Still though... pretty silly stuff.
Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
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Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#22It would be good to know if this was an internal or external recruiter. If the organization has contracted this out to another organization, then it should minimally reflect on Facebook and have maximum, laughable effect, on the contracted organization. From what I've experienced with Facebook recruitment, they dragnet linkedin pretty hard and have at-least a 5-step process for interviewing that is designed to be imp…
Probably internal – when I interviewed with them in the past an internal recruiter (I was familiar with through friends / on-campus stuff) gave me some super dumb technical questions on the "initial screen". Very basic pseudo data structure stuff, but still. It was obvious she was trying to map the words I had said to some pre-provided solution. They should probably stop doing that.
That's somewhat common, in my experience. It's just a basic quiz to screen out obviously unqualified applicants.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#23True story, I once got an email from a recruiter asking for someone with experience in C, C+ and C++.
No idea if it was a typo for C# or the recruiter thought, we have C and C++, why not add C+ in there to increase our hits.
I found it amusing, but didn't start an argument..
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#24This is not the right attitude to bring in to the workplace. You'll have a range of people from executives, to clients to co-workers in other departments who don't know what UNIX, APIs and POSIX are. If you can't communicate technical matters nicely then you have not yet developed the right attitude for a professional working environment. It's the same thing with doctors when they create metaphors to explain complica…
Verbatim exchange: Thanks for the quick response and clarifications. Experience with Linux and other UNIX-like operating systems is largely transferrable thanks to the standardization that resulted from the POSIX specification. As a result, the terms "POSIX" and "UNIX-like" by-and-large refer to the same thing. My experiences are in particular with developing software for Linux platforms, which are the most popular o…
A professional communicator tailors their communication to their audience. Stanley's initial explanation was pretty good, but since the recruiter didn't seem to understand it, Stanley should have adjusted his approach instead of doubling down.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#25Put yourself in the recruiter's shoes for a second. Facebook has a vast array of technologies in use, from the top to the bottom of the stack and across a wide breadth of problem domains. A lot of the time there are competing technologies. No one engineer at Facebook is familiar with the sum of technologies worked on by engineers at Facebook. It stands to reason that recruiters are in the same boat. So if someone com…
If I'm a recruiter and an intelligent-sounding person comes to me and says theyve used Oberon which is like Modula I would do 30 seconds research and understand if that is true, maybe reach out to my peers for more info.
If I didnt bother accepting anything beyond an exact keyword match of something I didnt understand then I was probably a lousy recruiter and likely not worth my paycheck.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#26This is not the right attitude to bring in to the workplace. You'll have a range of people from executives, to clients to co-workers in other departments who don't know what UNIX, APIs and POSIX are. If you can't communicate technical matters nicely then you have not yet developed the right attitude for a professional working environment. It's the same thing with doctors when they create metaphors to explain complica…
It's unclear to me if the recruiter meant "experience" in the "professional experience" sense vs just "have used personally," I'd say there was a definite failure on both sides to figure out if that was the expectation. Both parties in this are basically just repeating the same stuff back and forth at each other "you need Unix experience" "I have Unix on the skills section" and repeat...
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#27This is not the right attitude to bring in to the workplace. You'll have a range of people from executives, to clients to co-workers in other departments who don't know what UNIX, APIs and POSIX are. If you can't communicate technical matters nicely then you have not yet developed the right attitude for a professional working environment. It's the same thing with doctors when they create metaphors to explain complica…
I'm not sure I agree. You bring up an important point -- that specialists will always encounter slight errors when interacting with laypeople. There's a tricky balance to be struck there -- how do you communicate with them without adopting the same errors yourself, but also without bruising their ego, while hopefully educating them at the same time? The best mix seems to be the "correct by agreeing" approach.
"Is the tumor beniggun?" "Yes, that's correct, the tumor is benign".
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#28Put yourself in the recruiter's shoes for a second. Facebook has a vast array of technologies in use, from the top to the bottom of the stack and across a wide breadth of problem domains. A lot of the time there are competing technologies. No one engineer at Facebook is familiar with the sum of technologies worked on by engineers at Facebook. It stands to reason that recruiters are in the same boat. So if someone com…
This seems to be downvoted; Could one of the downvoters explain their point of view? I was pretty annoyed at the recruiter too but this explanation seemed to make sense for me.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#29In my home country we say sometimes it's better being smart than right. The recruiter is doing their job and antagonizing them, no matter how right you are, is not the smart move.
Re: Facebook recruiting and Unix systems
#30Somewhat on topic. Does anyone use actual Unix? Is it even something you can install anymore?
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