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Voynich manuscript: the solution?

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Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#11

Where's the actual solution? I feel like I'm missing something because what I see is some plausible commentary about it and some interesting discussion of Latin and ligatures but where's the actual decoding of the writing?

A latin tramslation snipped is in the header: https://www.the-tls.co.uk/s3/tls-prod/uploads/2017/09/p16_Gi... (not too convincing IMO)

Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#12
post #7

Rather convenient "solution". The solution is the heading and index...which are missing. Author might be right, but that is essentially an un-provable statement and doesn't really amount to a solution. But rather a statement that it can't be solved.

> Author might be right, but that is essentially an un-provable statement and doesn't really amount to a solution. But rather a statement that it can't be solved.

Not at all. Someone more motivated than the author can choose to decode it. If much of it was lifted, then you can trace back the lifted "recipe" to the earlier work and construct the index.

However, it's going to be very painful, slow work. For no real gain (who really cares about a sloppily done Medieval health self-help book?).

Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#13

Where's the actual solution? I feel like I'm missing something because what I see is some plausible commentary about it and some interesting discussion of Latin and ligatures but where's the actual decoding of the writing?

As I read it, the writing is un-decodable because it's not really "writing" in the conventional sense, it's recipes encoded using single-letter abbreviations, many of which require an index to decipher. No index is present, and the author surmises that it was never completed, or lost.

Or the situation might be that if a person comes to believe that the book is simply a compendium of coded medieval recipes then one wouldn't invest the huge amount of time need to reconstruct the index and so decoding it, since at the end one wouldn't wind-up with the prestige and excitement associated with decoding an ancient language.

Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#14
There are many crank analyses of the Voynich manuscript floating around out there. The only thing I've seen that has any believability (I'm a former linguist) is this:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4cRlqE3D3RQ

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8nHbImkFKE4

tl;dr: it's probably real writing, likely related to Roma/Syriac

Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#15
post #7

Rather convenient "solution". The solution is the heading and index...which are missing. Author might be right, but that is essentially an un-provable statement and doesn't really amount to a solution. But rather a statement that it can't be solved.

Also a statement that the solution, even if found, would be boring as hell.

Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#16
So the whole thing is written in a form of shorthand and the core index/naming that define what the individual pieces are is missing. I wonder if this wasn't meant as a "production" manuscript but as a reference document for the replication of a larger work?

Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#17
post #7

Rather convenient "solution". The solution is the heading and index...which are missing. Author might be right, but that is essentially an un-provable statement and doesn't really amount to a solution. But rather a statement that it can't be solved.

Is it consistent with the layout of other similar books of the period?

Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#18
post #12
post #7

Rather convenient "solution". The solution is the heading and index...which are missing. Author might be right, but that is essentially an un-provable statement and doesn't really amount to a solution. But rather a statement that it can't be solved.

> Author might be right, but that is essentially an un-provable statement and doesn't really amount to a solution. But rather a statement that it can't be solved. Not at all. Someone more motivated than the author can choose to decode it. If much of it was lifted, then you can trace back the lifted "recipe" to the earlier work and construct the index. However, it's going to be very painful, slow work. For no real gai…

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Re: Voynich manuscript: the solution?

#20
Other than declaring that the solution is obvious to a self-declared expert such as himself, the author (Nicholas Gibbs) doesn't appear to give any proof of his theory.

So far I can can find online, this piece is the only thing he has ever published about the Voynich manuscript: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22nicholas+gibbs%22+voynich

Who is Nicholas Gibbs? Does anyone besides Nicholas Gibbs trust his opinion on these matters? And how did he convince the TLS to publish this drivel?

(to avoid being entirely negative, here's a link to a blog that shows what some better Voynich research looks like: https://stephenbax.net)

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