Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
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Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
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Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#2Excellent, was asking about this a while ago [1], looking forward to trying this out on Azure.
Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#3I recently reached out to Mesosphere to better understand the value and options available to my company if we switched to Mesos (and thus Mesosphere). We currently run Kubernetes across all major cloud providers and we'd like some help.
I was startled by how dogmatic they are about their pricing model: per node, annually. Our entire business model is running dynamically scaling data pipelines for companies. We spin nodes up and down programmatically based on a pipeline's history and a dozen other factors.
I had a lot of back and forth with them and eventually their CFO and they just could not understand the concept of a "node hour" or anything of the like. Eventually, it was determined if we paid the per-node annual price for our "average" (completely different story, but they calculated this about as wrong as you could have) usage and we went our separate ways.
The product seems really cool but as someone who runs a company that easily spin up thousands of nodes in the middle of the night for (for a grand total of $40/hr on GKE...) this pricing model just seems antiquated. I imagine that all companies will be driving their usage to this practice in due time. I really hope to see the industry change.
Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
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Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#5I recently reached out to Mesosphere to better understand the value and options available to my company if we switched to Mesos (and thus Mesosphere). We currently run Kubernetes across all major cloud providers and we'd like some help. I was startled by how dogmatic they are about their pricing model: per node, annually. Our entire business model is running dynamically scaling data pipelines for companies. We spin n…
Had an interesting pricing experience with them a couple of years ago. We were happy with our Mesos/Marathon cluster of ~100-200 machines but needed some acute support and we were in the same investment fund of DCVC. Got on the phone with ... Sales... No problem; you're a friend of ours because of DCVC; we'll get you special, friendly pricing on DC/OS...
Got an email a few hours late: $100,000 per year. Was fairly puzzled.
Two hours later, I got another email correcting the prior price: the special, friendly price was now $150,000 per year.
We migrated to AWS ECS and all was well.
Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#6I recently reached out to Mesosphere to better understand the value and options available to my company if we switched to Mesos (and thus Mesosphere). We currently run Kubernetes across all major cloud providers and we'd like some help. I was startled by how dogmatic they are about their pricing model: per node, annually. Our entire business model is running dynamically scaling data pipelines for companies. We spin n…
I was examining a Mesosphere deployment a few years ago and also found the pricing model to be difficult in a cloud environment, but the salesperson I spoke with seemed more clueful than your description.
We chose to go otherwise for a variety of reasons.
Today, I think I would probably suggest to a Serious Company with a fully staffed ops/sre/devops team to run a pure Mesos play for the data systems with k8s on top or side by side for web systems.
Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#7I recently reached out to Mesosphere to better understand the value and options available to my company if we switched to Mesos (and thus Mesosphere). We currently run Kubernetes across all major cloud providers and we'd like some help. I was startled by how dogmatic they are about their pricing model: per node, annually. Our entire business model is running dynamically scaling data pipelines for companies. We spin n…
> Mesos (and thus Mesosphere)
Mesos is an open source project. Would you consider any other vendors besides Mesosphere?
Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#8I recently reached out to Mesosphere to better understand the value and options available to my company if we switched to Mesos (and thus Mesosphere). We currently run Kubernetes across all major cloud providers and we'd like some help. I was startled by how dogmatic they are about their pricing model: per node, annually. Our entire business model is running dynamically scaling data pipelines for companies. We spin n…
> Mesos (and thus Mesosphere) Mesos is an open source project. Would you consider any other vendors besides Mesosphere?
Mesos and Marathon are open source, but there are features that the enterprise offering has (in addition to support) that the open source one does not.
Vendor wouldn't matter if someone needed those "enterprise" features.
Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#9I recently reached out to Mesosphere to better understand the value and options available to my company if we switched to Mesos (and thus Mesosphere). We currently run Kubernetes across all major cloud providers and we'd like some help. I was startled by how dogmatic they are about their pricing model: per node, annually. Our entire business model is running dynamically scaling data pipelines for companies. We spin n…
> Mesos (and thus Mesosphere) Mesos is an open source project. Would you consider any other vendors besides Mesosphere?
DC/OS is also open source. What are your concerns with it?
Re: Run Kubernetes on top of DC/OS
#10I was confused by this passage:
>"Running Kubernetes on DC/OS allows you to run different types of workloads (more explicitly, both the stateless and stateful components that make up most modern applications) on the same infrastructure."
Can someoene answer - how does Running Kubernetes on top of DC/OS help you run stateful apps on Kubernetes?
Or is the meaning that DC/OS is better for running stateful services and then you can use K8 to run your stateless services?
Its been a while since I've used Mesos, is the path for running stateful services on complete and very compelling now?
Thanks.