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#2Java EE 8 Hands On Lab.
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#3How is this just happening now? Java is super popular in the open source and academic communities, but C# has been ahead of them since its start with an open specification, open implementations, and for the past few years, a full-throttle open source effort.
What's going on?
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#4How is this just happening now? Java is super popular in the open source and academic communities, but C# has been ahead of them since its start with an open specification, open implementations, and for the past few years, a full-throttle open source effort. What's going on?
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#5What really frustrates me about how (I assume Oracle) handled this transition away from java.net is that all the issue links just lead to the same "java.net is closed" page, they didn't bother to redirect them to the github issues pages (the issue IDs are the same from what I've seen).
I run into this issue often enough that I've been tempted to write a userscript to translate the java.net links automatically... doesn't do anything about all the broken documentation links though :(
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#6How is this just happening now? Java is super popular in the open source and academic communities, but C# has been ahead of them since its start with an open specification, open implementations, and for the past few years, a full-throttle open source effort. What's going on?
Java had an open specification (if you mean freely available and accepting contributions), open implementations, and allowed open-source contributions, for years before C# did - I don't know what you're talking about.
This post is just about JavaEE - a set of libraries for Java - being moved to GitHub.
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#7How is this just happening now? Java is super popular in the open source and academic communities, but C# has been ahead of them since its start with an open specification, open implementations, and for the past few years, a full-throttle open source effort. What's going on?
All of this used to be on a (very very slow horrible) repository site called "java.net". They moved everything to GitHub now. Similar to MS shutting down CodePlex and moving to GitHub.
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#8How is this just happening now? Java is super popular in the open source and academic communities, but C# has been ahead of them since its start with an open specification, open implementations, and for the past few years, a full-throttle open source effort. What's going on?
On C# having had an incomplete ECMA specification always lagging behind and source code made available under an obscure, non-open-source, legally tainting license acting as a boobytrap for anything commercial DOES NOT count as open.
Even now they are being disingenuous about license changes, witness for example the leadership of this project changing license from Apache 2.0 to MIT and being obtuse about the licensing of patents or about reasoning, not explaining clearly the drawbacks of the change: https://github.com/Microsoft/visualfsharp/issues/3440
OpenJDK happened on May 8, 2007, that's 10 years ago and you've got companies like Red Hat and IBM collaborating on it. By comparison .NET Core was released 2016, so that's 9 years later.
And the JCP might be a farce as far as standardisation efforts are concerned, but at least you've got multiple companies participating.
I'm replying this because I'm getting tired of Microsoft's marketing campaigns on this forum.
UPDATE:
Btw I actually applaud Microsoft's open sourcing efforts, I see myself using .NET in the future and I'm actively using Visual Studio Code and TypeScript at the moment. They've got fine people there working on dev tools, they always had.
But then I also see them engaging in what's basically racketeering, threatening Android phone makers with patents (i.e. if you can't innovate, litigate), having potential for becoming one of the largest patent trolls ever. And I also see them breaking user privacy in Windows 10. Therefore my view of them is balanced, as a large organization the left hand doesn't know what the right does, etc.
I cannot love them and even though I may have forgiven them for their past attacks on Linux and the open web, I can't forget their past that easily. And before you mention Google, Apple, Facebook, or other media darlings, check my history to see that I'm consistently ranting about all of them and the malevolence of one does not excuse the rest.
What I'm saying is that "Microsoft changed" messages make me feel nausea because it's been a clear marketing campaign and people fell for it. Let their actions speak, applaud and reward them when they do good, but don't put them on a pedestal and don't do marketing for them without getting paid for it.
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#9Needs context
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#10How is this just happening now? Java is super popular in the open source and academic communities, but C# has been ahead of them since its start with an open specification, open implementations, and for the past few years, a full-throttle open source effort. What's going on?
On C# having had an incomplete ECMA specification always lagging behind and source code made available under an obscure, non- open-source, legally tainting license acting as a boobytrap for anything commercial DOES NOT count as open . Even now they are being disingenuous about license changes, witness for example the leadership of this project changing license from Apache 2.0 to MIT and being obtuse about the licensi…
> I'm replying this because I'm getting tired of Microsoft's marketing campaigns on this forum.
I just think you're simply underestimating how many people actually like .net and spreads the love by free will. :)