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At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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Post by yahna »

peoplewindow wrote: post #82
AndrewDucker wrote: post #25

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If someone is "simply holding different opinions" that people should have lesser rights, or be treated differently because of how they were born, then we shouldn't really be surprised that people are upset by that. I'm not seeing hatred towards people for arguing over correct levels of import taxes. I'm seeing it because they're backing politicians who are actively causing harm to real human beings.

I'm not seeing hatred towards people for arguing over correct levels of import taxes Sure you are. You see someone vote for Trump and immediately assume it must be because they're an evil, ethically flawed person who inexplicably hates love, sunshine and puppies, whereas perhaps they mostly care about taxes. You even did it in this post. Your thinking is knee jerk and shallow, and it's people like you that are causin…

But they were willing to vote for trump despite all the other stuff.

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Post by cr0sh »

sharemywin wrote: post #234
malmsteen wrote: post #205

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r u kidding ? bush was largely more evil than trump. trump is just randomly going from one to another mostly unconsequential decision. bush went to war, purposefully let torture be instigated (while trump say ok for torture motsly to look tough) and promoted hugh oil conglomerates.. he's also the governor who order the most inmates to be sent to death row Learn to see the difference between talk and action.

your comparing 8 years to 6 months and legislative agenda that's so right wing they can't even get anything passed by their own party.

> so right wing they can't even get anything passed by their own party.

I do have to say this part has amused me the most, as a registered independent who leans heavily socially liberal (I'm more conservative when it comes to economic issues - but more in the sense that I want money going to things that advance the species, rather than destroy it).

I certainly expected after the last election to see a steamroller of conservative GOP legislation being passed left and right. Instead, we got a bunch of EOs - and a stalled Congress. I was not expecting that.

Not that I like it, mind you...

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humanrebar wrote: post #260
plandis wrote: post #252

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> But it doesn't--it could just mean you think the other candidate had stuff that was more disqualifying. That seems like a false dichotomy. There were third party candidates. Plus, you can always choose not to vote.

There was no pro-life candidate on the ballot that wasn't Trump.

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staticelf wrote: post #160
plandis wrote: post #128

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How is it knee-jerk and shallow? If you voted for Trump you either directly support Trump's social policies or you don't think they were abhorrent enough to not vote for him.

Or maybe that the democratic economical policies were abhorrent enough to vote for Trump, despite his social policies?

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peoplewindow wrote: post #188
plandis wrote: post #128

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How is it knee-jerk and shallow? If you voted for Trump you either directly support Trump's social policies or you don't think they were abhorrent enough to not vote for him.

And everyone who voted for Hillary Clinton supported starting a war with Russia, a nuclear power? No? But that was her policy - the "no fly zone" that could only be implemented by shooting down Russian jets, or perhaps people have forgotten. In contrast Trump wanted to make peace with Russia. So maybe I can assume anyone who didn't vote Trump has a racist hatred of Russians.

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Post by greglindahl »

xkvd wrote: post #285
TeMPOraL wrote: post #270

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I don't know if there even is a moral rule there. I feel like the root cause is simply people being insecure about threats to their identity, and anything above that being just rationalizations.

Yeah, but I have a feeling that we're both outside of the set of people who would make the statement I was quoting in my OC, which might explain why you and I can't find such a rule.

Have you considered the Golden Rule?

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Post by ubertaco »

humanrebar wrote: post #260
plandis wrote: post #252

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> But it doesn't--it could just mean you think the other candidate had stuff that was more disqualifying. That seems like a false dichotomy. There were third party candidates. Plus, you can always choose not to vote.

There was no pro-life candidate on the ballot that wasn't Trump.

Evan McMullin. I know this, because I voted for him.

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Post by yahna »

belorn wrote: post #189
AndrewDucker wrote: post #25

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If someone is "simply holding different opinions" that people should have lesser rights, or be treated differently because of how they were born, then we shouldn't really be surprised that people are upset by that. I'm not seeing hatred towards people for arguing over correct levels of import taxes. I'm seeing it because they're backing politicians who are actively causing harm to real human beings.

The mentality that if you are not with us then you are against us has nothing to do with "people should have lesser rights, or be treated differently". Quite the opposite. I would love to hear from some third-party voters about how they were treated by the left after the 2016 election.

Well I'd say those people in Michigan/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania who voted for stein, because Hillary just wasn't good enough, deserve a "feel good about that?"

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Post by yahna »

candiodari wrote: post #44
LyndsySimon wrote: post #23

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> than the golden calves US libertarian society has set up is shunned This doesn't make any sense to me - as an (extreme) libertarian, I see very little progress on that front. The Democrats and Republicans have each used the libertarian "brand" when it has suited them, but neither have implemented any actual libertarian positions in my lifetime, at least not that I can recall. Out of curiosity, are you perhaps viewi…

No, he looks at it like left and right. From a European perspective American politics are simple: Republicans: extreme right (slight adjustment: closed borders, mostly for laissez-faire economic reasons) Democrats: extreme right (slight adjustment: (ever so slightly more) open borders, mostly for laissez-faire economic reasons) Libertarians: extreme right Even the bloody US communist party does not want to abolish ma…

Republicans also have their extremely regressive social policies.

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Post by ubertaco »

neo4sure wrote: post #277

All I can is get used to it. Red states are in decline and the trend will continue into the future. There is a reason tech companies are liberal.

Yeah, the mass migration of tech companies out of the Bay and to Austin, Raleigh, Boston, and Atlanta is definitely a sign of "red state decline".
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