This is particularly messed up because you know poorer people will take this option so they can afford their next phone or device. It preys on lower-income individuals unaware of what is going on. People who generally aren't aware of what rights are being tossed out, or may not even have the luxury to put personal rights above cost.
Verizon Up offers rewards in exchange for customers’ personal information
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#22unpaywalled mirror: http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/09/05/verizon-wants... I'm actually ok with this idea, because it introduces the concept of companies "paying" for your data. To me, that means a couple things: 1. People with privacy concerns can use verizon but _not_ participate in their data collection program. 2. It opens up the idea of a competitive market for your data. Google and others have gotten a…
I am relatively okay with it insofar as that it is an opt-in program instead of an opt-out program. There is a clear requirement that you agree to give them access to the data, and in fact, from your Verizon account you can flip a switch on each line that prevents you (or any user on your account) from accidentally agreeing to Verizon Selects, that you'll need to go in and uncheck before anyone on your account can sign up.
However, I am doubtful this is an act of goodwill on Verizon's part, as opposed to being due to the much stricter privacy requirements ISPs and telcos are held to compared to your average tech company. If Verizon could just silently collect your data and sell it, I'm reasonably confident they would.
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#23It seems to me that this is he future we are heading, where privacy is only accessible for higher classes, it's a shame we are going in this direction just in the name of profit.
This is already happening with the free services we are getting from Google and Facebook.
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#24At least with Verizon you get something out of it. AT&T just charges you extra if you want privacy.
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#25At least it's optional
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#26On one hand, they easily could have just left this in their ToS and the average person wouldn't have been any wiser about it. It's kind of a good thing they're at least offering something for our personal information. So many companies just take it as a bonus on top now, and don't catch enough flak for it.
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#27unpaywalled mirror: http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/09/05/verizon-wants... I'm actually ok with this idea, because it introduces the concept of companies "paying" for your data. To me, that means a couple things: 1. People with privacy concerns can use verizon but _not_ participate in their data collection program. 2. It opens up the idea of a competitive market for your data. Google and others have gotten a…
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A nice bookmarklet based on that:
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#28It seems to me that this is he future we are heading, where privacy is only accessible for higher classes, it's a shame we are going in this direction just in the name of profit.
It's how all rights work. Freedom of speech? You can yell all you want, but it will never be equal to a rich individual able to buy adds and have recorded messages played over the internet. 2nc Amendment? You ever see the prices to own certain guns? Voting? While there isn't a direct poll tax, you have to be able to afford the opportunity costs of the time spent to vote, as well as being able to afford access to the place to vote.
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#29This is going to be a natural result of the incoming GDPR. My own startup will be doing something similar in order to remain compliant. You now have to ask politely for people's data, and then give them a carrot in return for it.
Verizon is US-only; the GDPR doesn’t seem applicable.
You just have to be within the EU/EEA to be covered by the GDPR. How this will be enforced in the future is hard to tell, but you should still be covered by it.
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#30unpaywalled mirror: http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/09/05/verizon-wants... I'm actually ok with this idea, because it introduces the concept of companies "paying" for your data. To me, that means a couple things: 1. People with privacy concerns can use verizon but _not_ participate in their data collection program. 2. It opens up the idea of a competitive market for your data. Google and others have gotten a…
Verizon is already being paid to provide you with access. So now on top of that they also want rather unfethered access to your online activity for which you might receive a small token in return, which may or may not be a reward you actually want. Your connection fees plus the amount of money theyll get for reselling your data isnt remotely evenly matched, theyre not really paying for anything. This is just another scheme to milk their customers further.