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At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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I think this is all circles of America right now. I'm a typical social leaning west coast tech dude and I cannot be pragmatic in my conversations and points about the state of affairs because I'm immediately a supporter of this that or the next thing. Constructive public discourse is dead?

It is head or tails now. The grey area is a myth.

Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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I grew up in Texas but worked in Silicon Valley for a few years. One of the toughest adjustments was going from a small conservative town to a major liberal populace. It was astonishing the number of people who got angry _at me_ for having a different opinion then they did. At one workplace I saw two coworkers get into a fist fight because the liberal was "offended" that the conservative differed on a viewpoint. Go t…

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Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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My question is, why do all of a person's co-workers need to know their political affiliation?

You can choose what aspects of yourself you want to reveal and conceal from people at work. For example, I don't reveal my religious beliefs to people at work unless someone asks me, which rarely happens. Politics is much the same.

> He showed coworkers emails he exchanged with Ivanka Trump after he mailed her photos he took at the Republican convention, and on election night, he texted colleagues snapshots from the floor of Trump’s victory party in New York City.

This person sounds like they're trying to rub their political views in everyone else's face.

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I don't think it's even just conservatives, anyone who has an even slightly different opinion than the golden calves US libertarian society has set up is shunned. It's closer to religion at this point. I consider myself liberal, but (and?) I disagree on various topics, mostly on affirmative action. However, if you think that introducing more bias is a bad way to solve existing bias, you're a racist. It's not "I disag…

>However, if you think that introducing more bias is a bad way to solve existing bias, you're a racist.

Perhaps instead of labeling people as "x, y, and z" much like war propaganda has done through the years, we should try to understand where they are coming from?

Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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I grew up in Texas but worked in Silicon Valley for a few years. One of the toughest adjustments was going from a small conservative town to a major liberal populace. It was astonishing the number of people who got angry _at me_ for having a different opinion then they did. At one workplace I saw two coworkers get into a fist fight because the liberal was "offended" that the conservative differed on a viewpoint. Go t…

That anger could be reasonable or not, depending on your opinions.

No, it's not reasonable. It's a vote, not justification to throw fists or anything in between, even.

Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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Aren't these the same sort that will moan ceaselessly about the ludicrousness of "safe spaces" and "snowflakes"? I don't particularly care. You're free to speak your mind. You're not free to force people around you agree. Either get over it, or move on. I hear welding is an in-demand industry and I bet they'll find more receptivity to their viewpoints there.

> I hear welding is an in-demand industry and I bet they'll find more receptivity to their viewpoints there.

I know what point you're trying to make here, and it's true that there may be more receptivity, but welders are more likely to be, say, pro union than your run of the mill SV bro.

Your point about the "safe spaces" is hilarious!

Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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>>“Work is work, and not everything needs to be about politics,” he said. While he sees liberal colleagues who sit nearby don’t seemingly need to filter their comments, he’s decided it’s not worth engaging, adding “I don’t want to be known as that guy who wants to argue with everybody.”

As someone who falls on the Liberal side of the spectrum, this bothers me more than almost anything else regarding modern day politics. If you fall in line with the "right" (left) side, you are allowed to say any number of disparaging, mean, hateful, or ignorant comments without fear of consequence - as long as it's aimed at the political right-wing. If you mention you are a conservative or hold conservative views, you are aligned with the worst of the worst and anything you say is inherently wrong.

The liberal echo chamber is just as bad, if not worse, than the conservative's version of the same thing. I don't think work is ever the correct place to discuss political views in depth, but I can't imagine feeling like I can't express any view without fear of being downright hated.

Re: At liberal tech companies, those who disagree on politics say they’re isolated

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Honestly, I am not the least surprised. I don't know if anyone is really. Because never before has there been so much hate towards simply holding different opinions. People actively share "if you like x you can remove me as your friend" shit on facebook, companies fire people for expressing their political views and media companies "choose a side" more then ever. And don't tell me Google isn't. Just look at Youtube w…

If the information channels are polarized, so are the opinions.
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