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Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by zimpenfish »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #167
enraged_camel wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, many people conflate Freedom of Speech with free speech. The former is the constitutionally protected freedom from government persecution (e.g. imprisonment) based on what you say. The latter is the misguided belief that you should be allowed to say whatever you want in public without consequence. I strongly believe it is morally wrong to side with people who support genocide, and whose predecessors hav…

Yet no Nazi symbolism or chants were present in the Alt-Right's ranks before Antifa started to organize Black Blocks and turned protests violent. Remember this whole cycle started by grown adults wanting special treatment, such as safe spaces and forced usage special pronouns, and people who were against such non-sense.

> Yet no Nazi symbolism or chants were present in the Alt-Right's ranks

You think the identification of someone as a Nazi requires them to be wearing symbolism or chanting? No. The alt-right has been espousing Nazi ideals and philosophy for a long time - well before Spencer coined the cute term for them.

> Remember this whole cycle started by grown adults wanting special treatment

Yes, I remember the GamerGate idiots too.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by zimpenfish »

zichy wrote: post #179
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet no Nazi symbolism or chants were present in the Alt-Right's ranks before Antifa started to organize Black Blocks and turned protests violent. Remember this whole cycle started by grown adults wanting special treatment, such as safe spaces and forced usage special pronouns, and people who were against such non-sense.

This is the worst comment I've read in a long while. Political discussions on HN are the worst.

Only when people show up to defend Nazis.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by enraged_camel »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #167
enraged_camel wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, many people conflate Freedom of Speech with free speech. The former is the constitutionally protected freedom from government persecution (e.g. imprisonment) based on what you say. The latter is the misguided belief that you should be allowed to say whatever you want in public without consequence. I strongly believe it is morally wrong to side with people who support genocide, and whose predecessors hav…

Yet no Nazi symbolism or chants were present in the Alt-Right's ranks before Antifa started to organize Black Blocks and turned protests violent. Remember this whole cycle started by grown adults wanting special treatment, such as safe spaces and forced usage special pronouns, and people who were against such non-sense.

>>Yet no Nazi symbolism or chants were present in the Alt-Right's ranks before Antifa started to organize Black Blocks and turned protests violent.

I don't know where you get your news.

This is from July 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRE9eR6tX0

An Republican National Convention speaker openly doing the Nazi salute at the end of her speech. No one batted an eye.

This is from November 21st, 2016: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard...

Members of the audience perform the Nazi salute at the end of white supremacist Richard Spencer's speech.

I can go on. The fact is that Nazis have always been a part of the alt-right for as long as the alt-right has existed, because their ideology strongly aligns with, and is the logical end result of, alt-rightism. They show up at alt-right rallies because they know they can recruit young, impressionable people to their ranks there by whipping them up into a frenzy.

If you think they started showing up only after Antifa broke a few store windows, you haven't been paying attention.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

zichy wrote: post #180
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #159

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I only speak from experience. I've been called a Nazi scum for advocating civil behavior, refraining from violence and doxxing, and siding with free speech for everyone. People have even straight up assumed I was a (poorly hidden) KKK member because my user name has the word "wizard" in it.

>I've been called a Nazi scum for advocating civil behavior Assuming that this is your account, do you call this misogynic shit "civil behavior"? https://twitter.com/nextlevelwizard/status/71492088722555289... https://twitter.com/nextlevelwizard/status/71490655573344665... Spending time with games, anime and 4chan memes doesn't qualify for a political discourse.

You can assume that it's my twitter, but I only have this username here and on reddit.

Then again I don't see why someone can't enjoy games, anime, or 4chan memes or how consuming them disqualifies you from having political opinions or dismissing them.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

zimpenfish wrote: post #178
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only speak from experience. I've been called a Nazi scum for advocating civil behavior, refraining from violence and doxxing, and siding with free speech for everyone. People have even straight up assumed I was a (poorly hidden) KKK member because my user name has the word "wizard" in it.

> I've been called a Nazi scum for advocating civil behavior, refraining from violence and doxxing, and siding with free speech for everyone. You know that's going to require more than anecdotal evidence though, right?

Frequent Reddit. Try taking just a step to right from your current views. You'll see how fast you'll get banned from all Left subreddits and you'll get called names and labeled as everything bad under the Sun.

This being said I'm also banned from the infamous The_Donald, since I do not belong to the right either.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by nthcolumn »

kanwisher wrote: post #151
nthcolumn wrote: post #141

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My free speech/opinion: >and even the Dark Web will allow paedophiles, hit men, and every type of criminal alt-right? Why don't you call them what they are - Nazis and fascists. They are lowest of all these. There is probably strong overlap. Fascists think nobody should have any rights but themselves. The vigilantism/collaboration was made necessary by the alarming fact that the people who should have been doing some…

How are they effecting free speech? It seems you are trying to take it away from people, by trying to call them nazis and getting rid of them. This group is probably way more free speech, their main enemy Antifa is specifically against free speech

How much free speech you think you'll have when they have their fascist state?

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

zimpenfish wrote: post #181
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet no Nazi symbolism or chants were present in the Alt-Right's ranks before Antifa started to organize Black Blocks and turned protests violent. Remember this whole cycle started by grown adults wanting special treatment, such as safe spaces and forced usage special pronouns, and people who were against such non-sense.

> Yet no Nazi symbolism or chants were present in the Alt-Right's ranks You think the identification of someone as a Nazi requires them to be wearing symbolism or chanting? No. The alt-right has been espousing Nazi ideals and philosophy for a long time - well before Spencer coined the cute term for them. > Remember this whole cycle started by grown adults wanting special treatment Yes, I remember the GamerGate idiots…

>Yes, I remember the GamerGate idiots too.

I hardly followed the topic. Refresh my memory, it was about some developer who had slept with some journalist at some point and the journalist gave the game a good review and people thought the game was bad?

All I remember from it was that everyone who played video games was again labeled as misogynist and there were demands from SJW changes bunch of games to have female characters with less revealing clothing.

Re: Raddit: An open source alternative to Reddit

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Post by Can_Not »

kanwisher wrote: post #151
nthcolumn wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My free speech/opinion: >and even the Dark Web will allow paedophiles, hit men, and every type of criminal alt-right? Why don't you call them what they are - Nazis and fascists. They are lowest of all these. There is probably strong overlap. Fascists think nobody should have any rights but themselves. The vigilantism/collaboration was made necessary by the alarming fact that the people who should have been doing some…

How are they effecting free speech? It seems you are trying to take it away from people, by trying to call them nazis and getting rid of them. This group is probably way more free speech, their main enemy Antifa is specifically against free speech

> Antifa is specifically against free speech

Antifa is specifically against fascism. Some sects may also be against free hate speech.

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