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Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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yes, people do. Not all the countries are pure meat eaters...

You know that fish is a type of meat, right?

Catholics don't consider fish meat. I'm not sure what they think it is, maybe some sort of creepily mobile mushroom?

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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> Not all the countries are pure meat eaters... lmao... fish is meat.

well, I should have said "animal flesh". In my mother tongue (Spanish) fish (pescado) is different than meat (carne).

Sounds like a bug in Spanish (chill, I'm Spanish). However, fish is also animal flesh so that wouldn't have made the statement any better. Fish are animals. Fish muscles are meat in the same way any other meat is meat.

Downvoted for facts, gotta love it.

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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You know that fish is a type of meat, right?

I've found that "meat" is sometimes used in casual English as "Animal muscle/meat, but not fish" I think there's a slight conceptual divide on both the hard-carnivore-against-fish and pescatarian groups. Old world traditions tend to distinguish them separately as well.

True, but it's just stupid, fish are animals.

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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You know that fish is a type of meat, right?

Lots of cultures don't class fish in with most meats. In traditional Catholicism the rule against meat on Fridays didn't apply to fish and likewise with Japanese Buddhist rules against meat eating. It's sort of like how most people consider tomatoes to be vegetables even though they aren't, scientifically. Yeah, in 21st century English fish is a meat but it's non-centrally meat so the meaning is clear when you apply…

> In traditional Catholicism the rule against meat on Fridays didn't apply to fish

Beaver meat is also a-ok! https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-...

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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You know that fish is a type of meat, right?

Catholics don't consider fish meat. I'm not sure what they think it is, maybe some sort of creepily mobile mushroom?

And some Buddhist and Hindu sects consider mushrooms to be meat.

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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I really wish plastics were recycled/reused a lot more, because they are such ideal materials --- being rather unreactive, flexible, resilient, and (in the case of thermoplastics, which make up the bulk of this waste) easily reprocessed. Although the throwaway culture and low cost means that a lot of it doesn't, I wonder if in the future, if the prices go up in following petroleum trends, "mining" for plastics would…

There is a lot of plastic waste your not allowed to put in the recycle bin, such as plastic wrappers for food.

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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Prediction: evolution will solve what humans are incapable of. That means species of fish evolving that specializes in eating plastic. Kinda makes sense. While plastic isn't bio-degradeable in the normal sense, perhaps the digestive system of a specialized fish will succeed. After all there is an abundance.

The evolutionary pressure to cause a mutated, plastic-eating fish to outcompete non-plastic-eating fish would suggest that there would be areas where plastic was more abundant that the other things (plankton, mostly) that fish normally feed on, i.e. other fish would be at a disadvantage because they couldn't process plastic. That's a pretty dire scenario for humans.

Not necessarily. A lot of the flora and fauna in the New World developed somewhat independently from that in the old one. So we might have these new species evolve in regions of the oceans where the plastic is more abundant.

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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Bioaccumulation is a serious thing. I suspect increase of plastic in fish might be related to the reduction in sperm count in men.[0][1] [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bpa-semen-quality... [1] http://www.deepseanews.com/2014/10/a-story-about-fish-plasti...

Eating lower in the food chain is a practical and accessible solution.

Lean meats are also preferable to fatty, and animals that grow fast are preferable those that grow slowly.

Pigs and chickens are fairly safe, and perfectly ethical if you source responsibly.

Re: Fish are eating lots of plastic

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You know that fish is a type of meat, right?

Lots of cultures don't class fish in with most meats. In traditional Catholicism the rule against meat on Fridays didn't apply to fish and likewise with Japanese Buddhist rules against meat eating. It's sort of like how most people consider tomatoes to be vegetables even though they aren't, scientifically. Yeah, in 21st century English fish is a meat but it's non-centrally meat so the meaning is clear when you apply…

Likewise chicken is often not considered 'meat' despite clearly being the flesh of an animal. It's kind of weird, but not as weird as the people who think "a little bit of ham" in a salad doesn't count as meat.
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