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Here's the comprehensive list of capitalist countries that wiped out 50 million of their own citizens in a couple decades: Glad we cleared that up.
Ahistorical. Revisit 20th century Central and South America. This is a silly thread and one I'm not eager to perpetuate, but I can't not take this bait.
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Ahistorical. Revisit 20th century Central and South America. This is a silly thread and one I'm not eager to perpetuate, but I can't not take this bait.
No bait here. The ideological death toll of capitalism is far, far lower than communism, full stop.
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Here's the comprehensive list of capitalist countries that wiped out 50 million of their own citizens in a couple decades: Glad we cleared that up.
You're saying that if it takes time for the effects of a capitalist mode of production, which does not cater for those at the bottom of society, which creates wars for profit and plunder then therefore these countries are not guilty? Are you aware of how capitalism came about, through the forceful and violent enclosure of the commons in Western Europe, and the invasions and famines caused by the redirection of suppli…
But even if everything you say is true and capitalism is a sort of slow killer, I would still prefer it to communism, which is efficient only in murdering those it governs.
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I don't know what you mean that I "keep equating...". This is my first post mentioning the left in this thread. I also don't know how that fits into GGGGP's comment, which you posted in response to me before anyone had invoked "the left" in this thread. I definitely don't understand your remark about the Trump Hilary split, which would never tell us anything about liberals, Christians, or Muslims, and I certainly nev…
Whoops: I didn't realize that I replied to ~rhapsodic earlier instead of you. My apologies...
"Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant."
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Sure. A Guatemala here, a Rwanda there, who's really counting?
I mean, none of that is related to capitalism, but why not make believe?