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We used Trello, but boards were changed monthly. It was a nightmare. Then Asana which emails me endlessly and it takes so long to open. And now Zube which feels weird to put things in which aren't suited to dev tickets and getting anything right in the balance
I have been using Jira at work for the last 10 months or so, and have been using trello for personal stuff for more than a year and a half. I dunno, but Jira doesn't looks so bad to me. To be quite honest, "Jira sucks" really looks like a meme to me, that people carry around for some reaons. I am not a jira enthusiast, nor i am endorsed/funded by atlassian in any way. Jira is a tool to me, and it does it job.
Not sure why manager types like JIRA though..
Permissions around issues and their state are so granular they beg to be abused.
Permissions aren't granular enough to allow teams to individualize their project's workflow as their needs evolve.
Jira constructs like states are reused in weird ways for other functionality. My favorite is the abuse of states to try and implement kanbahn style swimlanes; states which are global to an org and can thus get odd workflows attached to them by someone else.
Administered with a light touch, Jira can be fine. But it's never administered in such a fashion. NEVER.
With JIRA, prepare to invest significant pulling your hair out if you want to use any features. It's amazingly difficult to enable the use of the Trello-like board feature.
Go ahead, try enabling the "Agile" feature and see, it doesn't work out of the box!!! Have fun digging through Google to figure out why you're getting cryptic errors, only to finally figure it's because....
Oh, you have to set up additional permissions to enable it.
Oh, and also enable a certain field (epics) but this needs to happen in the back-end, as it's some SQL query to enable it.
Oh, but you want to sort issues by drag-drop like a real board? Nope. First go find the right permission to actually enable sorting!
Oh, but it still wont let you sort! Did you forget to 'sort by ASC' in your filter query? Otherwise, no drag-drop sorting for you!
Why those things aren't just enabled when you created the board in the first place, boggles my mind!
Not from the moment we make the first ticket, though.
I have been using Jira at work for the last 10 months or so, and have been using trello for personal stuff for more than a year and a half. I dunno, but Jira doesn't looks so bad to me. To be quite honest, "Jira sucks" really looks like a meme to me, that people carry around for some reaons. I am not a jira enthusiast, nor i am endorsed/funded by atlassian in any way. Jira is a tool to me, and it does it job.
I think people associate JIRA with middle managers who "work" all day in JIRA and foist draconian JIRA "processes" on everyone. eg: My current manager wants us update all open JIRA tickets every morning with "current status" . Not sure why manager types like JIRA though..
I prefer little to no process, but the work has to be organized some how, and using git with emacs and org mode wouldn't be nice to most :)
(Jira sucks because it's anti-employee-empowerment by design; everything is oriented around mandatory fields, mandatory workflows, and requiring approvals. In theory a good manager should work around this, but defaults are important. I fear the same thing happening to Trello)