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Re: Why I left

#81
post #24

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that it is written by someone who is highly immature and/or unstable. I mostly feel sorry for their investors who purchased yet another block chain hoping to make a quick buck with likely little to no diligence on what they buy. The more I hear about blockchains, the murkier it looks to me.

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Re: Why I left

#82

I don't understand why he didn't nail down his equity situation before doing any work. Yeah, it's pretty shifty of the 'founders' but then it's pretty basic for techies, especially early startup engineers.

I've been there. Verbal agreement to substitute most of my usual pay for three months in exchange for shares, only that part of the agreement wasn't written down, the shares never came, and when the three months ended the CEO was shocked, shocked, by the significantly higher invoice.

Fortunately, I had written proof that I'd told them this was going to happen (the bottom of the previous invoice), so I did get paid, but I never did see those shares. Shares are a gamble anyway, and if the CEO doesn't read invoices I don't see them lasting very long — I don't loose sleep over this mistake, just use it as a lesson for the future.

Re: Why I left

#83

> that he did something to me that both scared and injured me. I no longer feel safe working with this person. I am walking with a limp a week later. OP is happy to spill some pretty high-level corporate beans, but not detail a physical assault... I don't really know what to take from this article in all honesty. I feel there's a lot being left unmentioned.

And instead of getting a lawyer to resolve this, he says he'll just 0-day exploits for it. Seems like a poor negotiation strategy to me.

He may be able to argue that the statement is not a threat, merely a statement of fact. Saying:

> my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity.

could seem like a Mafia goon saying "nice shop, shame if something happened to it" but it can also be read as "it's terrible that the employer has shafted the employee so hard there are no lawful ways for the employee to get paid".

Re: Why I left

#84
post #67

I had a brief conversation on github with Zack few years ago over cryptocurrency implementation, great guy and really knowledgeable about cryptocurrency. Knowing Aeternity had him on the team, I immediately told my friends who invest in cryptocurrency they should pay close attention to it. I also wanted to look into its code and help, but I'm not an erlang programmer. To be honest, when I checked Ae's official websit…

What one programmer can do in one month, two programmers can do in two months. -- Fred Brooks As a programmer, I'd be happy in a team to be the only programmer as long as the rest of the team are experts in their domains.

> As a programmer, I'd be happy in a team to be the only programmer as long as the rest of the team are experts in their domains.

As someone in that position right now, let me just tell you that it's not all roses (not that I think you'd necessarily assume it was!). For one, you have to deal with the stigma of being 'the nerd' in the team. You'll also end up doing a lot of menial tasks because "you're the technical one" (e.g. trying to fix the printer, explaining basic tech to other members of the team).

Finally, most importantly, other members of the team don't really understand what you do. They might devalue it, expect you to complete tasks in an unrealistic amount of time, or get frustrated when you're the bottleneck.

There can be benefits of course — you can probably plan your work yourself without being told, quite as much, what to do — but, contrary to expectations, I've found it quite problematic: you are in a very isolated position.

Re: Why I left

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like they broke, or tried to break, his leg. Seems reasonable to me to want to fight back.

Honestly to me, it sounds like a junior (or at least, a non-business-savvy) person tried to extort somewhere in the area of $3.5 million from the owner of their company. In this instance, "trying to break his leg" may have been more like "got shoved and fell over" (Which to be fair, could be a reaction someone might have if their employee came into their office demanding several million dollars - who knows). I don't…

Junior? He has worked on the codebase since 2015 alone, then Aeternity stole his code and raised 77 million USD entirely based on his own work. He is the sole reason the company even exists so definitely not junior. And they stealing his code and starting a company based on it was how they got started so they are clearly not nice people.

Re: Why I left

#86
post #62

Particularly alarming section: > August 17- Aeternity finally makes an offer to hire me that I am comfortable with. In the process of negotiating my employment, the owner of Aeternity was asking me technical questions, and the honest answers I gave made him angry. He wished that universe worked differently, and he blamed me, the messenger of bad news. The owner of Aeternity was so upset by the technical limitation, t…

The vagueness of that part reminded me of a time I worked at a small startup several years ago, and the owner got angry about something and kicked a chair which partly hit a couple of us. The damage was pretty mild but one of us did get banged in the knee so he limped slightly for a couple days. I can only really imagine something similar happened in this case too

Eh.

So if someone walks into your office and demands $3.5 million or they walk, and you don't think they're worth it, two reasonable responses are to laugh in their face or to calmly explain why their expectations are unrealistic.

Kicking something across the room, punching the wall, yelling and screaming, or other displays of violent temper are not. I think it is reasonable to be scared for your physical safety if someone becomes violently angry around you, even if they do not initially direct that violence at you.

Re: Why I left

#87
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: "If Aeternity is going to use the technology invented, and they wont pay me to make their software secure, then my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity."

The irony. He rants about the unethical behavior of his associates and then clearly states that he will himself engage in unethical behavior. The only thing this rant proves is that the ICO space is over run by ethically challenged scammers much like the Bitcoin ASIC space was 3 years ago.

He hasn't said that he will. He stated it is his only way, which can also be read sarcastically as "there is no way i can get paid".

Re: Why I left

#88
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What one programmer can do in one month, two programmers can do in two months. -- Fred Brooks As a programmer, I'd be happy in a team to be the only programmer as long as the rest of the team are experts in their domains.

> As a programmer, I'd be happy in a team to be the only programmer as long as the rest of the team are experts in their domains. As someone in that position right now, let me just tell you that it's not all roses (not that I think you'd necessarily assume it was!). For one, you have to deal with the stigma of being 'the nerd' in the team. You'll also end up doing a lot of menial tasks because "you're the technical o…

When you are in that role it's also your task to define the role. I can't fix your printer, I can take it apart (and it's usually 5 a year that suffer this faith for my hunger of cheap motors and axis to hack thing with). Your task is to implement a core asset of the company, not to fix a stupid printer. Estimates is a skill barely anyone is good at, put a higher estimate on tasks and tell the team that stuff is always work in progress and subject to change but change requests are the cheapest if the come early. Also, involve the team so they see the current state (and make it clear that this or that tiny functionality is still simplistic and will be improved later on).

Re: Why I left

#89
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author is effectively ousted from the "company", physically assaulted, signs nothing, then spends '5 days' with 'the Aeternity lawyer' mulling over a contract? All of this after not being paid while their colleagues are being 'paid regularly.' My question is what/where is the legal void that this company existed in?!

Assuming you believe the OP. Things like "I didn't get paid so I am selling 0 days", or "I had to leave Europe to be safe because I fought with a guy", don't help me taking it seriously. Might be true. Might not be true. The only certainty is that this guy is a nutter.

You're putting words into his mouth. Particularly the first one is not at all what he wrote.

Re: Why I left

#90
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you believe the OP. Things like "I didn't get paid so I am selling 0 days", or "I had to leave Europe to be safe because I fought with a guy", don't help me taking it seriously. Might be true. Might not be true. The only certainty is that this guy is a nutter.

You're putting words into his mouth. Particularly the first one is not at all what he wrote.

> If Aeternity is going to use the technology invented, and they wont pay me to make their software secure, then my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity

No sane or honest person would ever write that.

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