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Re: Why I left

#21

Post by watwut »

pmorici wrote: post #9
humanrebar wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: "If Aeternity is going to use the technology invented, and they wont pay me to make their software secure, then my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity."

The irony. He rants about the unethical behavior of his associates and then clearly states that he will himself engage in unethical behavior. The only thing this rant proves is that the ICO space is over run by ethically challenged scammers much like the Bitcoin ASIC space was 3 years ago.

Angry people do dumb things.

Re: Why I left

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Post by hasenj »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #6
humanrebar wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: "If Aeternity is going to use the technology invented, and they wont pay me to make their software secure, then my only way to get paid is by selling zero-day exploits for people who want to attack Aeternity."

Should of never written that one sentence, that is at the very least a plain as day admission and now he will hold any blame for any exploits used against Aeternity, whether involved or not.

Seems like author is in a completely different part of earth where that court system will not affect him.

Re: Why I left

#23

Post by krirken »

em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #18
pmorici wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony. He rants about the unethical behavior of his associates and then clearly states that he will himself engage in unethical behavior. The only thing this rant proves is that the ICO space is over run by ethically challenged scammers much like the Bitcoin ASIC space was 3 years ago.

It may be ironic, however it's not unethical to engage in unethical behavior specifically against unethical actors.

> it's not unethical to engage in unethical behavior

OK.

Re: Why I left

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Post by cm2187 »

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that it is written by someone who is highly immature and/or unstable. I mostly feel sorry for their investors who purchased yet another block chain hoping to make a quick buck with likely little to no diligence on what they buy. The more I hear about blockchains, the murkier it looks to me.

Re: Why I left

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Post by billconan »

I had a brief conversation on github with Zack few years ago over cryptocurrency implementation, great guy and really knowledgeable about cryptocurrency. Knowing Aeternity had him on the team, I immediately told my friends who invest in cryptocurrency they should pay close attention to it.

I also wanted to look into its code and help, but I'm not an erlang programmer.

To be honest, when I checked Ae's official website and found out that only one member is a technical person, I thought the structure is weird. I too have been approached by non-technical people who wanted to form a team, but rely on me to come up with both the idea and the product. I don't trust people who can only talk.

Re: Why I left

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Post by austenallred »

This is probably obvious, but the easiest way this can be avoided is by investors not investing millions of dollars in something when the ownership of that thing is not clearly defined.

Alternatively, if you don't know how ownership is to be divvied up, don't raise tens millions of dollars until you iron out the details.

Re: Why I left

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Post by 0xbear »

fred_is_fred wrote: post #14
King-Aaron wrote: post #10

> that he did something to me that both scared and injured me. I no longer feel safe working with this person. I am walking with a limp a week later. OP is happy to spill some pretty high-level corporate beans, but not detail a physical assault... I don't really know what to take from this article in all honesty. I feel there's a lot being left unmentioned.

And instead of getting a lawyer to resolve this, he says he'll just 0-day exploits for it. Seems like a poor negotiation strategy to me.

How does a lawyer resolve anything if there's no contract? And by extension, why should he refrain from publishing zero days if there's no contract? It's his software.

Re: Why I left

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Post by King-Aaron »

0xbear wrote: post #28
fred_is_fred wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And instead of getting a lawyer to resolve this, he says he'll just 0-day exploits for it. Seems like a poor negotiation strategy to me.

How does a lawyer resolve anything if there's no contract? And by extension, why should he refrain from publishing zero days if there's no contract? It's his software.

> why should he refrain from publishing zero days if there's no contract?

I can probably think of 77-million potential reasons that he might not be able to / want to.

Re: Why I left

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Post by 0xbear »

King-Aaron wrote: post #29
0xbear wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does a lawyer resolve anything if there's no contract? And by extension, why should he refrain from publishing zero days if there's no contract? It's his software.

> why should he refrain from publishing zero days if there's no contract? I can probably think of 77-million potential reasons that he might not be able to / want to.

None of those reasons apply to him.
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