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@Oracle, please do the right thing and open-source Solaris. At least that's a proper way to die!

It is very unlikely that Oracle will do the right thing. Oracle, as a company, is known to be ethically challenged. A company like Oracle that is known for its apathy towards its own developers cannot be expected to make careful consideration towards the software it is killing.

For those, who have not worked in Oracle or have little understanding of Oracle's internal culture, I recommend this nice article about why James Gosling, the creator of Java, quit Oracle: http://www.eweek.com/development/java-creator-james-gosling-...

Re: “Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic silent EOL of the product”

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@Oracle, please do the right thing and open-source Solaris. At least that's a proper way to die!

It is very unlikely that Oracle will do the right thing. Oracle, as a company, is known to be ethically challenged. A company like Oracle that is known for its apathy towards its own developers cannot be expected to make careful consideration towards the software it is killing. For those, who have not worked in Oracle or have little understanding of Oracle's internal culture, I recommend this nice article about why J…

On the topic of Oracle and its corporate culture, you may also want to see part of the talk "Fork Yeah! The Rise and Development of illumos" by Byran Cantrill[1]. The language he uses to talk about Oracle is rather colorful.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m

Re: “Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic silent EOL of the product”

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That's a lot of very highly skilled staff which they won't be able to reassemble for another product or project for years. Those people will scatter to the winds now. It's a shame they lacked the imagination to make them do something new.

But then Oracle doesn't seem to have the organizational capability to start major new successful product lines anymore. They grow through acquisition.

Re: “Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic silent EOL of the product”

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Sad news all over industry. Red Hat creating huge mess throughout linux with systemd for years. Solaris killed. Thankfully zfs continues living trough FreeBSD. MariaDB is forked at the last moment. Some of my work depends on VirtualBox.

Quote from American Gods: “A single product manufactured by a single company for a single global market. Spicy, medium, or chunky! They get a choice, of course! OF COURSE! But they are buying salsa.”

Re: “Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic silent EOL of the product”

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That's a lot of very highly skilled staff which they won't be able to reassemble for another product or project for years. Those people will scatter to the winds now. It's a shame they lacked the imagination to make them do something new. But then Oracle doesn't seem to have the organizational capability to start major new successful product lines anymore. They grow through acquisition.

It is a shame for the Solaris project, but I feel anyone who would stay with Oracle for so long knew it wasn't about the tech and all about the money.

Re: “Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic silent EOL of the product”

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Sad news all over industry. Red Hat creating huge mess throughout linux with systemd for years. Solaris killed. Thankfully zfs continues living trough FreeBSD. MariaDB is forked at the last moment. Some of my work depends on VirtualBox. Quote from American Gods: “A single product manufactured by a single company for a single global market. Spicy, medium, or chunky! They get a choice, of course! OF COURSE! But they ar…

Every major Linux distro uses systemd. I know its opponents are vocal but a bunch of us are silently enjoying the simplicity of .service files and systemd timers.

Re: “Oracle laid off all Solaris tech staff in a classic silent EOL of the product”

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@Oracle, please do the right thing and open-source Solaris. At least that's a proper way to die!

It is very unlikely that Oracle will do the right thing. Oracle, as a company, is known to be ethically challenged. A company like Oracle that is known for its apathy towards its own developers cannot be expected to make careful consideration towards the software it is killing. For those, who have not worked in Oracle or have little understanding of Oracle's internal culture, I recommend this nice article about why J…

Not defending Oracle here, however I have learned working all these years in the context of Fortune 500 company cultures, that they are not alone.

The way Oracle as company behaves, is quite common in that universe.

I will miss having Solaris around.

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