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How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

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Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

#21

What if they created the 57 line project, and spent $86 million to improve OpenALPR?

Then it would be useless to the people who spent the money, because they wouldn't have the cars and cameras and ongoing support and research that they wanted to spend that money on.

Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

#22

I think this is a good case for why all government software should be open source. How many police departments around the world are spending absurd amounts of money for this technology? It would make much more sense both cost and productivity wise to have one big project that anyone can improve on instead of multiple inferior projects. Not to mention that all of this is paid for with taxpayer money, so it is reasonab…

Please join my campaign at http://www.oss4gov.org/manifesto - this is exactly why we want all government software to be open source (Shameless plug)

i think there's some gov't contractors that survive off these inefficiencies. They will fight tooth and nail against OSS in gov't, and since they are often more connected, it's quite likely they can win.

Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

#24

Two problems: 1. You've shown the success of OpenALPR isn't perfect, but I'm sure the closed source alternative isn't perfect either. It might be better, but is it $86 million better? 2. If we spent $86 million on developing OpenALPR, it would be an incredible product that everyone could use, without paying so much to the overhead of an executive structure.

To even begin to answer your question, you'd need to know what the project included besides the software that OpenALPR could theoretically replace. Like how much hardware has it bought? How much of that money went to paying police officers for time spent developing requirements, testing the prototypes, and learning the eventual system? How much of it went to the research needed to develop this system some five years before openALPR was available? How much went to paying the software developers a normal first world wage and benefits for five+ years?

Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

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I'm pretty sure you could make it realtime with more than 10x improvement: Scan a thinner section of the video because the sky/ground is useless, and process every 10th frame.

This requires a vehicle to be right in front of the (police) car. Not very practical as most of the license plates you get to scan will be in other locations of the video - you know, since the car in front of you may be there the next 10 minutes whereas cars drive past you and are parked to the side all the time.

you could narrow it 1/3rd at least without really affecting results at all, then include the 10x improvement from skipping frames, since you really don't need that many. The world doesn't move that fast.

Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

#26
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please join my campaign at http://www.oss4gov.org/manifesto - this is exactly why we want all government software to be open source (Shameless plug)

i think there's some gov't contractors that survive off these inefficiencies. They will fight tooth and nail against OSS in gov't, and since they are often more connected, it's quite likely they can win.

Full disclosure: I'm one such contractor. We work with small and local government. Cities and counties mostly.

I personally don't have a problem with open source software and use it extensively outside of work. However, the big problem with it is technical support. If you are a government organization and the OSS you are using has a bug, who do you contact to get it hotfixed ASAP or find you workarounds?

That's one of the biggest advantages of commercial software: it is often sold with support contracts that entitle customers to certain levels of support, which can be critical to get things fixed and minimize downtime.

I know there are companies that focus on supporting OSS deployments, but from what I have seen in my own niche, they charge a ton of money that often surpasses what the equivalent commercial package would cost.

Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think there's some gov't contractors that survive off these inefficiencies. They will fight tooth and nail against OSS in gov't, and since they are often more connected, it's quite likely they can win.

Full disclosure: I'm one such contractor. We work with small and local government. Cities and counties mostly. I personally don't have a problem with open source software and use it extensively outside of work. However, the big problem with it is technical support. If you are a government organization and the OSS you are using has a bug, who do you contact to get it hotfixed ASAP or find you workarounds? That's one o…

I think the key here is open sourcing your software that you are selling, so to a vendor, it's little different from supporting your own proprietary tech.

Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

#29
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think there's some gov't contractors that survive off these inefficiencies. They will fight tooth and nail against OSS in gov't, and since they are often more connected, it's quite likely they can win.

Full disclosure: I'm one such contractor. We work with small and local government. Cities and counties mostly. I personally don't have a problem with open source software and use it extensively outside of work. However, the big problem with it is technical support. If you are a government organization and the OSS you are using has a bug, who do you contact to get it hotfixed ASAP or find you workarounds? That's one o…

> Full disclosure: I'm one such contractor. We work with small and local government. Cities and counties mostly.

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>If you are a government organization and the OSS you are using has a bug, who do you contact to get it hotfixed ASAP or find you workarounds?

You, or someone like you, presumably?

Re: How I failed to replicate an $86M project in 1 line of code

#30

What if they created the 57 line project, and spent $86 million to improve OpenALPR?

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