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Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by duncan_bayne »

krastanov wrote: post #55
gertef wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the original character is promoting themself as a slut to get undue attention to engineering work, slut-shaming is in scope.

And if I promote myself as a Star Trek fan to bring attention to my engineering work, nerd-shaming is also in scope. Or a body-builder programmer shamed for being a "bro" by us nerds. Why do we need to shame each other about our quirks? (as long as those quirks do no harm, but as far as I know, Sexy Cyborg does not flaunt herself around kindergartens)

For what it's worth, I think only puritans worry about kindergarten kids seeing breasts.

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by justicezyx »

yzmtf2008 wrote: post #10
logicallee wrote: post #5

This was an interesting article! At the same time, there are innovations out of China (that surpass anything which may have inspired it, or which they could have started out copying). So judging by their output, whatever cultural issues surrounded: >For Chinese, this means you think you know better than a professional, than experts. It’s the act of seeing something and saying “why don’t they do this instead?”. Tradit…

As a Chinese reader, every sentence in this article rings true, even more so in the historic perspectives. Especially in the PRC, you're in general incentivized to be an "excellent cog in the machine", and they teach this value to you in schools. "Being unique" in your first 18 years of life is considered a bad thing, and respect for hierarchy is enforced every day. I wouldn't write everyone in China off to the type…

The only century routinely teach her citizen about how to do revolution, and is called to respect hierarchy...

I must be living in a China of a parallel universe.

But one thing I agree, do do appear use statement without backup, that certainly one common traits of Chinese education: teach facts not reasoning...

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by justicezyx »

bobjordan wrote: post #85
exikyut wrote: post #64

Avoiding the sentiment of the other comments here (which are not completely confusing, but nonetheless a little over my head), I have a practical question: How does one relate to and incentivize the Chinese people, then? Where are good places to start learning more? Context/example: I'm tentatively interested in approaching China from a "hobbyist with a tiny bit of money" standpoint. I want to do limited runs (3 to 4…

"I know the volume I can promise is effectively nil, and I read this article from the standpoint of knowing I have an extra job of convincing to do because of that." Convincing of what - people to work for effectively nothing? Because according to your logic, that is what you are trying to accomplish. Convincing people to work for nothing. But it's not just you, it is the majority, dare I say nearly everyone, that co…

Well said.

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by justicezyx »

jdietrich wrote: post #81
exikyut wrote: post #64

Avoiding the sentiment of the other comments here (which are not completely confusing, but nonetheless a little over my head), I have a practical question: How does one relate to and incentivize the Chinese people, then? Where are good places to start learning more? Context/example: I'm tentatively interested in approaching China from a "hobbyist with a tiny bit of money" standpoint. I want to do limited runs (3 to 4…

>How does one relate to and incentivize the Chinese people, then? Guanxi, guanxi, guanxi.

It's the means not the ends...

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by yzmtf2008 »

justicezyx wrote: post #92
yzmtf2008 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Chinese reader, every sentence in this article rings true, even more so in the historic perspectives. Especially in the PRC, you're in general incentivized to be an "excellent cog in the machine", and they teach this value to you in schools. "Being unique" in your first 18 years of life is considered a bad thing, and respect for hierarchy is enforced every day. I wouldn't write everyone in China off to the type…

The only century routinely teach her citizen about how to do revolution, and is called to respect hierarchy... I must be living in a China of a parallel universe. But one thing I agree, do do appear use statement without backup, that certainly one common traits of Chinese education: teach facts not reasoning...

Wow, we really must be living in parallel universes. Are you sure “revolution” is encouraged in China? In fact, are you sure revolution is encouraged in any country?

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by korzun »

forkLding wrote: post #19
gleb wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NSFW in US - for better or worse

Thats more her style, not doing it for attracting attention, more because shes interested in modifying her body EDIT: not sure where the downvote came from, you can read about it from her own pastebin

> Thats more her style, not doing it for attracting attention, more because shes interested in modifying her body

That doesn't change the fact that the media is still NSFW in the U.S.

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by samirillian »

aleyan wrote: post #87

> Even now, engineers are not held in anywhere near the same regard in China as they are in the West. I have to respectfully disagree with the author on the esteem of engineers in China versus the West. I am not Chinese, nor an expert on their culture, but I do live in the West so I understand half of the equation. Current President of China, Xi Jinping was educated as a chemical engineer[1]. His predecessor Hu Jinta…

It's the technocracy! I also think that's what Americans didn't like about Hillary Clinton (among other things). She seems to look at governing much more like an engineer.

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by userbinator »

adventured wrote: post #66
forkLding wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats more her style, not doing it for attracting attention, more because shes interested in modifying her body EDIT: not sure where the downvote came from, you can read about it from her own pastebin

> Thats more her style, not doing it for attracting attention, more because shes interested in modifying her body You're probably getting downvoted for that premise. It's blatantly obvious she's using it to drive views on YouTube (and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that). Even her name is intentionally pointed toward that: SexyCyborg; she's telling you right there what she's doing. It would be just as obvious…

On the topic of "attracting attention", there's also this which I came across a few months ago when someone else on an electronics forum brought it up: http://sexycyborgisaliar.blogspot.ca/2017/05/naomi-sexy-cybo...

Maybe a bit slanderous and biased, but certainly some interesting evidence to ponder...

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by justicezyx »

yzmtf2008 wrote: post #95
justicezyx wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only century routinely teach her citizen about how to do revolution, and is called to respect hierarchy... I must be living in a China of a parallel universe. But one thing I agree, do do appear use statement without backup, that certainly one common traits of Chinese education: teach facts not reasoning...

Wow, we really must be living in parallel universes. Are you sure “revolution” is encouraged in China? In fact, are you sure revolution is encouraged in any country?

Sure, but you learn that in a country you described as teaching to respect hierarchy, did you not find the contradictory?

Almost any books in China described the country as founded by overthrowing the rich and powerful oppressed the people.

Certainly the government is the rich and powerful and is no longer what it should be as described in the text book.

But is it appropriate to fabricate statements to patron the western stereotype?!

Do you know what Deliang Hou's line: isn't the truth already powerful, why use lies to support our causes?!

Re: Lu Ban's axe and working with your Chinese suppliers

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Post by dis-sys »

> Even now, engineers are not held in anywhere near the same regard in China as they are in the West.

what a joke. Three Chinese Presidents in a row all had engineering background, yet this is still not enough?

President Jiang Zemin was an engineer for decades.

President Hu Jintao was an engineer for almost a decade.

President Xi Jinping majored in chemical engineering from Tsinghua.

Then you look at property prices in Shanghai, Beijing and Shenzhen, it almost got a point that you can't afford to buy a home unless you work for some Internet companies or some banks. That is still not enough? How about the fact that most Software engineers got paid far more than lawyers and doctors/dentists?

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