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You can't use a web site to traffic people either.
You don't have to shove a human into the internet tube to use the internet tube to help move the human. Or do we want to ignore all of the sites facilitating prostitution, human trafficking's BFF?
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't have to shove a human into the internet tube to use the internet tube to help move the human. Or do we want to ignore all of the sites facilitating prostitution, human trafficking's BFF?
Likewise you don't need to invent a knife-over-IP protocol to use the internet to help kill people.
Does this fall under the banner of 'use the internet to help kill people'? Your facetious post and response seem to imply that you had something more specific in mind, or perhaps something by a specific group.
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Likewise you don't need to invent a knife-over-IP protocol to use the internet to help kill people.
You can order bullets on the internet. Does this fall under the banner of 'use the internet to help kill people'? Your facetious post and response seem to imply that you had something more specific in mind, or perhaps something by a specific group.
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You've seen how campaign ads work, right? "Congressmen X voted to enable sex trafficking online. Congressment X wants sex trafficking in your community. Vote Y and end sex trafficking for good."
"My opponent supports sneaking a bill through that would harm you, your family, and the freedoms of true patriots by wrapping it falsely as a cure for sex trafficking, like a snake oil salesman trying to sell you sewage with perfume to cure your ills. What other things will this charlatan support?"
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>more evil than neo-Nazis who go around marching and chanting hateful slogans They also are known for killing and brutalizing people.
I don’t think you can use a website to kill people, but I’m not up with the latest W3C proposals.
(snow crash anyone?)
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#56This is not some covert attack on Internet businesses, it is a well-intentioned but misguided attempt by these senators to prevent adult service websites (namely backpage.com) from enabling pimps and organized crime to traffic victims with impunity under Section 230. Backpage actively helps buyers and sellers remain anonymous specifically for adult services , and provides the means to avoid detection by law enforceme…
If those same said senators wanted to actually make a dent in sex trafficking in this country, they would take a look at legalization and regulation in a controlled environment, not unlike Nevada. This is another Band Aid to help make themselves look/feel better by exerting more control on a populace and ignoring the ways this bill will be misused, rather than taking a look at taking real steps to solve a problem. Un…
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#57I swear, you can predict the quality of a law as the inverse of how good the name sounds. If this law were going to limit sex trafficking, it would have a name like "Revisions to the Prosecution of Certain Interstate Crimes". But no, it's got a big, gaudy name that poisons the well on any opposition whatsoever. So, predictably, it will either endanger innocents or restrict basic rights. It's like god damn clockwork.
'The devil doesn't come to you dressed in horns and a cape.'
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If those same said senators wanted to actually make a dent in sex trafficking in this country, they would take a look at legalization and regulation in a controlled environment, not unlike Nevada. This is another Band Aid to help make themselves look/feel better by exerting more control on a populace and ignoring the ways this bill will be misused, rather than taking a look at taking real steps to solve a problem. Un…
"Legalize and regulate" doesn't work when you're dealing with criminals that are enslaving and trafficking underage women. I highly recommend that you learn more about backpage.com and understand why there is great emotional resolve to fix the problem, even if the solution presented here is misguided.
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#59The Act is as bad as the EFF says it is. 18 U.S.C. 1591 makes illegal "participation in a venture" which financially benefits from trafficking. This bill defines "participation in a venture" to include "knowing conduct by an individual or entity, by any means, that assists, supports, or facilitates the violation." That language vastly expands potential liability. If a website knows that its services are being used to…
I just wrote to Blumenthal and shared some info from your post. He's my senator, and I agree with most of his policies, but this is seriously misguided. Thanks for helping me to understand the chilling effect this bill would potentially have on every popular online communications service. I seriously cannot imagine how this would not put Facebook, Google, Reddit, and every other online communications platform out of…
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I just wrote to Blumenthal and shared some info from your post. He's my senator, and I agree with most of his policies, but this is seriously misguided. Thanks for helping me to understand the chilling effect this bill would potentially have on every popular online communications service. I seriously cannot imagine how this would not put Facebook, Google, Reddit, and every other online communications platform out of…
If Facebook's and Google's future is at risk, why haven't they done anything to stop this bill?