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U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

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Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

#81

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The task that they are hiring for does not generate enough revenue to be worth at price X. The business may not stop from operating if these tasks are not done, or not done on a priority basis.

So... the business doesn't even generate enough revenue to afford hiring the kind of people who can keep it running well , or at least not as well as its owners would want it to be running? Should workers be doing charity work now?

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Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

#82

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If they need to fill this job and it is not worth the higher salary and it cannot be filled at this salary or lower then this job should not exist as a job: the owner of the company, the manager of the company, the HR person of the company can either do that job themselves or that job should be eliminated.

But why? Does having the position open harm anyone?

It needlessly wastes peoples time.

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

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There is flood of American outsourcing centers in post-Communist EU countries. Top salaries for software devs/eng, including seniors, are USD 40k gross annually. They can treat the employees in the worst "corporate America" ways - their offices, available hardware, policies, laughable benefits, annual leave, create a perfect package for miserable professional and private life.

Given that USD 40K is a pretty decent salary in most of Southern and Eastern Europe, as other people have pointed out, US companies tend to be pretty good employers, and why not ? They can pay a fraction of what you would pay US based engineers, have more or less the same quality of work done, and still have happy employees.

These are salaries much below the market rate. The same companies oftentimes have massive profits in these countries, profits which are tightly funneled out through IE/NL/LU/British overseas regions.

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

#84

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The task that they are hiring for does not generate enough revenue to be worth at price X. The business may not stop from operating if these tasks are not done, or not done on a priority basis.

So... the business doesn't even generate enough revenue to afford hiring the kind of people who can keep it running well , or at least not as well as its owners would want it to be running? Should workers be doing charity work now?

No, you are free not to accept inadequate pay, just as the companies are free not to accept excessive pay. It's a marketplace, just think in terms of bids and asks.

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

#85

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The task that they are hiring for does not generate enough revenue to be worth at price X. The business may not stop from operating if these tasks are not done, or not done on a priority basis.

But, in the standard perfect markets interpretation, that would mean that the task shouldn’t be done. Right?

If there are no takers, then the task should not be done, yes. What a lot if people seem to imply is that these jobs should not be advertised in the first place, which I disagree with.

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

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post #82

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But why? Does having the position open harm anyone?

It needlessly wastes peoples time.

If employers were required to pay for someone's time for an interview, you would see this fixed right quick. But because an employer can leave an unreasonable job req out there and interview as many candidates as they want, with the only cost being their own time, this continues.

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

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There is a shortage of workers in as much as there is a shortage of BMW 7-series sedans for under $30k. I looked everywhere at that price. Massive shortage.

This is true in certain cases, but not all. I just offered an unemployed family member (and recent computer science grad) a freelance opportunity worth $100 an hour to build out a simple e-commerce site. They didn't want the work. I think part of the problem is that you can have a lot of "fun" these days for very cheap (video games, YouTube, etc). Maybe it's time for us to reexamine why people don't even want high-pa…

>why people don't even want high-paying jobs.

I'm gonna guess there's two sides to that story

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

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post #72

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What skill sets should they select for?

What skill sets a person has (provided it's related in some way to the open position) is less important than how quickly they can adapt and acquire new skill sets.

By this logic, no one should hire senior developers as they are just a waste of money.

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

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post #82

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It needlessly wastes peoples time.

If employers were required to pay for someone's time for an interview, you would see this fixed right quick. But because an employer can leave an unreasonable job req out there and interview as many candidates as they want, with the only cost being their own time, this continues.

Sorting resumes and conducting interviews is not free.

So, you still need a cost benefit analysis.

Re: U.S. Employers Struggle to Match Workers with Open Jobs

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But, in the standard perfect markets interpretation, that would mean that the task shouldn’t be done. Right?

If there are no takers, then the task should not be done, yes. What a lot if people seem to imply is that these jobs should not be advertised in the first place, which I disagree with.

Advertising is not free. Having a few unfilled jobs is natural but it's wasteful to have significant market disconnects.

That said, a lot of 'jobs' are simply H1B fodder or resume bait etc.

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