NYC Show and Tell for Hackers (Hack and Tell Meetup)
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#2Are you sure you meant to say "Hackers"? Not "programmers" or "engineers"? How is hacking different from programming? I have always thought that a hack is making something unexpected out of things that aren't supposed to be used this way, hence "iPhone hacking" is an oxymoron since all iPhone programmers are using iPhone SDK in a way Apple permits/tells them to. Same goes for most web apps that follow various standard best practices and recipes - that's as opposite from hacking as you can get.
So why destroy a word then? Hacking != Programming,
Re: NYC Show and Tell for Hackers (Hack and Tell Meetup)
#3Are you sure you meant to say "Hackers"? Not "programmers" or "engineers"? How is hacking different from programming? I have always thought that a hack is making something unexpected out of things that aren't supposed to be used this way, hence "iPhone hacking" is an oxymoron since all iPhone programmers are using iPhone SDK in a way Apple permits/tells them to. Same goes for most web apps that follow various standar…
what great hackers have in common according to pg: http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html
Re: NYC Show and Tell for Hackers (Hack and Tell Meetup)
#4Are you sure you meant to say "Hackers"? Not "programmers" or "engineers"? How is hacking different from programming? I have always thought that a hack is making something unexpected out of things that aren't supposed to be used this way, hence "iPhone hacking" is an oxymoron since all iPhone programmers are using iPhone SDK in a way Apple permits/tells them to. Same goes for most web apps that follow various standar…
what great hackers have in common according to pg: http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html
That may have nothing to do with linguistics: quality hacks are hard so they just aren't that common. So yeah, most of what hackers do isn't "hacking"
Re: NYC Show and Tell for Hackers (Hack and Tell Meetup)
#5Are you sure you meant to say "Hackers"? Not "programmers" or "engineers"? How is hacking different from programming? I have always thought that a hack is making something unexpected out of things that aren't supposed to be used this way, hence "iPhone hacking" is an oxymoron since all iPhone programmers are using iPhone SDK in a way Apple permits/tells them to. Same goes for most web apps that follow various standar…
Re: NYC Show and Tell for Hackers (Hack and Tell Meetup)
#6Are you sure you meant to say "Hackers"? Not "programmers" or "engineers"? How is hacking different from programming? I have always thought that a hack is making something unexpected out of things that aren't supposed to be used this way, hence "iPhone hacking" is an oxymoron since all iPhone programmers are using iPhone SDK in a way Apple permits/tells them to. Same goes for most web apps that follow various standar…
> I have always thought that a hack is making something unexpected out of things that aren't supposed to be used this way
Ideally that'd be the type of thing that people present at this group, though I'm fairly certain that not everyone will present these types of innovations. That's OK by me. I just want to develop a platform for people to get help offline with their projects, which may encourage "hacking" as you discuss. It's an experiment to see what happens. Zed Shaw's Freehacker's Union failed, I think, because he put this sort of restriction on it. "YOU HAVE TO PRESENT SOMETHING AND IT HAS TO BE COOL AND HAVE VALUE OR YOU CAN'T COME BACK" is not a language we'll speak here.
Re: NYC Show and Tell for Hackers (Hack and Tell Meetup)
#7Joined. I will allow myself to re-plug my networking event next Thursday in case some NYC HN'ers missed it:
http://sunsandandstartups.eventbrite.com/