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Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by KGIII »

prostoalex wrote: post #78
KGIII wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your tone, I'm guessing you're not a Tesla owner. You're right, in that it is not your problem. If you wish to ensure it remains not your problem, don't buy a Tesla. It's fairly new tech that's being made in small quantities. You'll face the same sorts of problems if you buy a Porsche. The Bugatti Veryon is recommended to have tire changes done by shipping it back to the factory. Tesla is not ready for the mass…

I disagree, and I am a model S owner for 18 months. Tesla vehicles seem to follow the "Microsoft in the 90s" trajectory where a 1.0 is a rushed and unstable product, 1.1 is a "service pack" fixing most issues and 1.2 is a reliable workhorse.

There is much more than that to be a mass market automobile. They can't even produce enough cars to qualify. They don't have enough repair techs to even cover that many.

I should probably disclose that I actually own a bunch of Tesla stock. I'm happy with where the company is headed but they still aren't ready to be a mass marketing automobile supplier. That's probably just a few more years away, however.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by duncan_bayne »

KGIII wrote: post #76
gordon_freeman wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I am a Tesla owner who has paid more than $70,000 for a car then I'd at least expect my time is not wasted in waiting for my car to be serviced. All these "cash-on-hand" and "they do admit they have problem on hand" and "it's not a permanent issue" are not my problem. AFAIK, Tesla keeps investing money they make in their projects like Tesla Semi and building 4 new Gigafactories. So at this point it seems to me tha…

From your tone, I'm guessing you're not a Tesla owner. You're right, in that it is not your problem. If you wish to ensure it remains not your problem, don't buy a Tesla. It's fairly new tech that's being made in small quantities. You'll face the same sorts of problems if you buy a Porsche. The Bugatti Veryon is recommended to have tire changes done by shipping it back to the factory. Tesla is not ready for the mass…

> From your tone, I'm guessing you're not a Tesla owner. You're right, in that it is not your problem. If you wish to ensure it remains not your problem, don't buy a Tesla.

Except that's not an option for most people, because their taxes are used to subsidize Tesla. If you're a working American you've already bought a part share in a Tesla, you just don't get to drive one.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by jdavis703 »

taf2 wrote: post #43
dmitrygr wrote: post #5

Sadly, if you are not a company with a name like Tesloop, but a normal user, the issue is not cost of service but time wasted on waiting for it. Unlike a real car, teslas can only be serviced by tesla...so.... https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldunne/2016/10/31/my-firs... https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/03/07/repairing-my-tesla... http://www.autonews.com/article/20161113/RETAIL05/311149995/... http://insideevs.c…

I've had a model s for 3 years now and spent a total of 2 hours at a service center for 1 maintenance appointment. Compare that to previous bmw or range rover for which I owned for around the same time and would have been at a service center for at least 2 or 3 times yearly - sometimes needing a temporary car for longer service visits... I'm sure this is not everyone's experience... but I'll never even consider any o…

I'm shocked by that. I had a Honda Fit for five years with about 50,000 miles, besides smog tests and getting new tires I never had to take it to a shop. I would expect more up-market brands to have even better reliability. Is this common that cheaper cars have better maintenance, or was I lucky?

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by teej »

jdavis703 wrote: post #84
taf2 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a model s for 3 years now and spent a total of 2 hours at a service center for 1 maintenance appointment. Compare that to previous bmw or range rover for which I owned for around the same time and would have been at a service center for at least 2 or 3 times yearly - sometimes needing a temporary car for longer service visits... I'm sure this is not everyone's experience... but I'll never even consider any o…

I'm shocked by that. I had a Honda Fit for five years with about 50,000 miles, besides smog tests and getting new tires I never had to take it to a shop. I would expect more up-market brands to have even better reliability. Is this common that cheaper cars have better maintenance, or was I lucky?

Japanese cars are famously reliable. German cars are not. A Toyota Corolla is miles ahead of a Mercedes S Class.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by dkhenry »

I am surprised people are trying to poke holes in this article. You're arguing with data. This isn't an extrapolation or a estimate, this is numbers based on actual use. You can say you don't think it will work like this for you, or you don't think Tesla has good service, but clearly for at least one set of people they are getting a massive ROI by buying Tesla's.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by KGIII »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #83
KGIII wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your tone, I'm guessing you're not a Tesla owner. You're right, in that it is not your problem. If you wish to ensure it remains not your problem, don't buy a Tesla. It's fairly new tech that's being made in small quantities. You'll face the same sorts of problems if you buy a Porsche. The Bugatti Veryon is recommended to have tire changes done by shipping it back to the factory. Tesla is not ready for the mass…

> From your tone, I'm guessing you're not a Tesla owner. You're right, in that it is not your problem. If you wish to ensure it remains not your problem, don't buy a Tesla. Except that's not an option for most people, because their taxes are used to subsidize Tesla. If you're a working American you've already bought a part share in a Tesla, you just don't get to drive one.

I didn't get to drive an M1A1 tank, either.

For your $0.003 contribution to those subsidies, you get cleaner air and maybe less global warming. New tech has obstacles to overcome. Qualified service technicians will be here eventually, hopefully.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by e_d_e_v »

FireBeyond wrote: post #66
dmix wrote: post #35

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Then you were likely never an ideal early adopter for their products anyway, which is how they should be perceived if you want to compare them to Chevy and Ford. It may not be polite to say this but it's the reality of business. Tesla's ability to solve this problem will likely be their greatest challenge going forward. They've proven repeatedly that they can get their product and marketing right to get customers. Bu…

> Then you were likely never an ideal early adopter for their products anyway, which is how they should be perceived if you want to compare them to Chevy and Ford. It may not be polite to say this but it's the reality of business. There's no way to phrase "wait 1+ month for needed, at times limiting, service on a $100,000+ vehicle" as being acceptable in any shape or form, not even "oh well, I guess you're just not a…

I mean, if you have a $100,000+ vehicle, you probably also have a couple other $40k-$60k vehicles you can drive for that month, right?

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by usaphp »

dmitrygr wrote: post #5

Sadly, if you are not a company with a name like Tesloop, but a normal user, the issue is not cost of service but time wasted on waiting for it. Unlike a real car, teslas can only be serviced by tesla...so.... https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldunne/2016/10/31/my-firs... https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/03/07/repairing-my-tesla... http://www.autonews.com/article/20161113/RETAIL05/311149995/... http://insideevs.c…

I had a bmw 5 series under lease, I also could not take it to other than bmw service center and can't fix it myself ( I am sure 99% of new premium car owners don't fix their cars themselves ) and everytime I went to a bmw service center it was a minimum of 2 days. One time it took 2 weeks to get something related to electronics fixed. My friend owns Chevy Bolt and he sends it for a service almost every other month, something new keeps breaking and he is very i satisfied with his car. So every case is different I guess

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Post by duncan_bayne »

KGIII wrote: post #87
duncan_bayne wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> From your tone, I'm guessing you're not a Tesla owner. You're right, in that it is not your problem. If you wish to ensure it remains not your problem, don't buy a Tesla. Except that's not an option for most people, because their taxes are used to subsidize Tesla. If you're a working American you've already bought a part share in a Tesla, you just don't get to drive one.

I didn't get to drive an M1A1 tank, either. For your $0.003 contribution to those subsidies, you get cleaner air and maybe less global warming. New tech has obstacles to overcome. Qualified service technicians will be here eventually, hopefully.

> New tech has obstacles to overcome.

Yep, definitely. And it should do so on the dime of investors and early adopters, not the public.

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