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Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Interesting. Do you have any citations handy? Thanks!

https://www.inverse.com/article/32239-why-gm-loses-money-che... claims a loss of $9k/vehicle, but the manufacturer does it to keep their average emissions/vehicle under legal limits.

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Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

#52

So they saved a bunch of money by putting a ton of miles on before age related problems started showing up. In other news the sky is blue. It's component deterioration from age that really gets you on a luxury car. Seat motors fail, wiring harnesses deteriorate, etc. It's also worth mentioning that they didn't crash one. With enough road hours eventually it will happen. The vehicles that can be serviced by a normal s…

> So they saved a bunch of money by putting a ton of miles on before age related problems started showing up. In other news the sky is blue.

Even if that's true the comparison to the maintenance and fuel coats of other similarly driven luxury vehicles is still valid.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

#53
post #36

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Want a real electric car with real support? Buy a Chevy Bolt, maybe? Production runs of the Chevy Bolt are reported to be limited in size because they lose a lot per car. This does not sound like a vehicle which will ever be produced in quantity that mechanics will learn how to do a good job of maintaining. I'd prefer to take my chances with Tesla than to take my chances with a niche discontinued product.

This does not sound like a vehicle which will ever be produced in quantity ... take my chances with a niche discontinued product. You heard it here first guys... the #1 selling electric vehicle in the US last month [0] is not popular enough to risk buying it. Chevy's investing heavily in expanding production [1], in preparation to shut it down and discontinue it. Everyone stay away... 0. http://insideevs.com/monthly-…

That's somewhat misleading. The Bolt is not competing against the Model S, but the Model 3, which is going to be produced in vastly larger numbers.

Let me add I am disappointed Bolt sales are so low. I want to see EV's entirely replace ICE's, and that will happen faster if there are more different popular brands and models for buyers to choose from.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

#54
post #35

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I never said I wish to punish them regulatorily. I disprove of such tactics in general. I said that I (personally) will punish them financially by not buying their products until I can be sure they can provide the level of service that I require.

Then you were likely never an ideal early adopter for their products anyway, which is how they should be perceived if you want to compare them to Chevy and Ford. It may not be polite to say this but it's the reality of business. Tesla's ability to solve this problem will likely be their greatest challenge going forward. They've proven repeatedly that they can get their product and marketing right to get customers. Bu…

It could be solved overnight with a partnership. If the model 3 starts to really eat into mid-price automaker's share they will be clamoring to lock down an exclusive service agreement.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

#55

So they saved a bunch of money by putting a ton of miles on before age related problems started showing up. In other news the sky is blue. It's component deterioration from age that really gets you on a luxury car. Seat motors fail, wiring harnesses deteriorate, etc. It's also worth mentioning that they didn't crash one. With enough road hours eventually it will happen. The vehicles that can be serviced by a normal s…

Components are much more likely to fail from being used consistently than due to the sheer passage of time. I would take a car that has been kept untouched in a garage over many years before I would take its equivalent model year that had been driven 300,000 miles.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

#56

Not terribly impressive to me. I have about $15k in my 2003 Honda Pilot.

The Model S is a luxury car. A much better comparison to your Pilot will be the Model 3, though of course it will be a good while before we have the long-term data for it.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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Sadly, if you are not a company with a name like Tesloop, but a normal user, the issue is not cost of service but time wasted on waiting for it. Unlike a real car, teslas can only be serviced by tesla...so.... https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldunne/2016/10/31/my-firs... https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/03/07/repairing-my-tesla... http://www.autonews.com/article/20161113/RETAIL05/311149995/... http://insideevs.c…

> Oh, and forget doing your own maintenance or buying parts to do so. No such luck - Unlike a real car manufacturer, Tesla won't sell them to you.

That might be a legitimate criticism of an economy priced car targeted at a very cost sensitive market, but a Tesla Model S is not that car.

I doubt a significant fraction of owners of recent model year $100k+ luxury cars are doing their own maintenance, or there are enough who want this to justify the business case for owner self maintainability.

I believe that a market for a cheap owner repairable EV exists or eventually will, though. Perhaps Tesla will offer something in that segment but if they don't other manufacturers will.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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post #57
post #5

Sadly, if you are not a company with a name like Tesloop, but a normal user, the issue is not cost of service but time wasted on waiting for it. Unlike a real car, teslas can only be serviced by tesla...so.... https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldunne/2016/10/31/my-firs... https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/03/07/repairing-my-tesla... http://www.autonews.com/article/20161113/RETAIL05/311149995/... http://insideevs.c…

> Oh, and forget doing your own maintenance or buying parts to do so. No such luck - Unlike a real car manufacturer, Tesla won't sell them to you. That might be a legitimate criticism of an economy priced car targeted at a very cost sensitive market, but a Tesla Model S is not that car. I doubt a significant fraction of owners of recent model year $100k+ luxury cars are doing their own maintenance, or there are enoug…

If the alternative is waiting over a month for a service appointment I think a lot of people would be willing do do a home repair.

Re: Tesla Model S Hits 300k Miles with less than $11k maintenance costs

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post #18

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Not trying to troll or be rude, but I actually can't find any problem with the original post. Could you elucidate?

It originally ended with a line saying something like, "I realize that Tesla is popular and reason is not, so bring on the downvotes" That's basically saying "most of you are unreasonable," which is a pretty dickish way to start a conversation.

Thank you. I was just dismissing that last sentence without much consideration. I see your point.
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