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Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by frik »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #53

Hah, not exactly what most people think when you use the word 'print' but then again ... People have asked what is the impact of 'free' CPUs. Something Dave Rosenthal realized way back in the 90's was that the electronics for driving a display could be printed on the margins of the display and eliminate the need for a separate controller board. Having watched the evolution of displays and seeing Mary Lou Jepsen's wor…

I was expecting some thin e-ink-paper (Kindle like).

E-ink supports colors and videos nowadays. (unfortunately the ebook readers still use the older monochrome e-ink generation. e.g. Amazon has little initiative as the went with LCD Kindle Fire for video and colors)

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by [deleted] »

birdman3131 wrote: post #132
ctdonath wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've long imagined something like that: a card-sized (including thickness) full-color display devoted to displaying, say, an entire movie. Given ultra-thin displays like OLED, dirt cheap storage, and "free" dedicated processing, you could hand out videos like sales brochures or cheap paperbacks. Amazing how technology has advanced.

You are missing the one reason this won't happen anytime soon. Battery tech.

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Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by plantain »

enthdegree wrote: post #84
dfps wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PixelQi! Are they finally going to put out a product anytime soon, do you know? Their low-power daylight-friendly monitors are only available on eBay as far as I've found.

They died, and their guts got bought by another display company, http://tripuso.com/ At least the screens are still being made.

Try to buy from them. 1 month+ response times!

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by abhi3188 »

av500 wrote: post #234
abhi3188 wrote: post #200

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havent worked that out, would probably need to get in touch with a manufacturer for assuming it's atleast 1/4th of what it is now, perhaps $20. Perhaps even less

a cheap dumbphone that retails for less than $20 has a BOM of around $5 and has CPU, battery and screen. so $20 retail for your cartridge is achievable in volume

good to know

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by abricot »

kijin wrote: post #232
nomel wrote: post #222

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I have a feeling that personal displays (as with cellphones now) will continue to exist until man stops existing. I imagine the opposite trend will occur, where each person owns fewer and fewer display devices. I can't imagine a justification now, or in the future, for buying some single use display. Once we get to a nice head mounted AR system, it would be very silly to have anything more.

People like having something special and permanent. All those pictures on your general-purpose computing device? They're gone as soon as you lose the device, get ransomware, and/or temporarily run out of money to renew the cloud storage subscription. A polaroid picture that starts playing as soon as you attach it to a suitable power source (please make it something standard like an AA battery or USB cable), on the ot…

Power from transparent photovoltaics printed on the same sheet. And include some kind of graphene battery inside the sheet so it can also light at night.

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by developer2 »

cr0sh wrote: post #97

This is one of those projects that at first, is easy to dismiss as "silly" or "useless". On the surface, sure. But looking at the imgur album and reading the comments (and I would imagine going to the website, etc - which I haven't done), it becomes clear (and the author even says so on the album) that this project ultimately served a larger purpose: From start to finish, this project has helped the person develop a…

You analysis is on point. The comments on Reddit in particular were so far off base. On one hand you had people raving about how this needed to be patented and produced for sale - those people are (perhaps optimistically) out of touch with reality. On the other hand were people laughing in his face for how ridiculous this was to produce as a project, because it's obviously not marketable ("I am so smart").

It goes to show how the average person thinks - everything has to be about the ability to make money, right? Why should anybody do ANYTHING if it's not aimed at directly producing income? So few people remotely understood that this has NOTHING to do with the final product and its (non-)place in the world. This is about learning a lot about every step, from concept and design to an extremely complex production process, of a single interesting idea. No, it's not about patenting. No, it's not about mass-producing in China to get-rich-quick. No, it's not about showing off "an amazing 23rd century Apple product", which it is clearly not.

Reading deep into the comments about his resulting product made me even more cynical about the average population. People just don't get it. The overall assumption is he's trying to invent the latest thing to sell people. The only reason to do anything in life must be backed by capitalist ambition! It is an idea, brought to fruition by one man's amazing ability to dedicate himself to learning - and performing - the entire process. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR OWN SKEWED INTERPRETATION OF HIS SUPPOSED INTENTIONS.

tldr; People's obsession with capitalism seeps into everything they come across. You can't share the result of your labour without people only being able to see the possibilities from a capitalist point of view. Everything is viewed from a capitalist (if not, then political) standpoint; anything else is apparently unfathomable.

tldr #2; I am envious of this product's creator. I wish I had even 5% of the creator's vision, ingenuity, ambition, or skill - let alone all four of those attributes.

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by foldr »

kijin wrote: post #232
nomel wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a feeling that personal displays (as with cellphones now) will continue to exist until man stops existing. I imagine the opposite trend will occur, where each person owns fewer and fewer display devices. I can't imagine a justification now, or in the future, for buying some single use display. Once we get to a nice head mounted AR system, it would be very silly to have anything more.

People like having something special and permanent. All those pictures on your general-purpose computing device? They're gone as soon as you lose the device, get ransomware, and/or temporarily run out of money to renew the cloud storage subscription. A polaroid picture that starts playing as soon as you attach it to a suitable power source (please make it something standard like an AA battery or USB cable), on the ot…

>A polaroid picture that starts playing as soon as you attach it to a suitable power source (please make it something standard like an AA battery or USB cable), on the other hand, is something you can keep in a box in the attic for your grandchildren to find after you're gone.

Unlikely, unless it's very carefully engineered. For example, the flash life of most microcontrollers is measured in decades.

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by cfstras »

abhi3188 wrote: post #119
cr0sh wrote: post #97

This is one of those projects that at first, is easy to dismiss as "silly" or "useless". On the surface, sure. But looking at the imgur album and reading the comments (and I would imagine going to the website, etc - which I haven't done), it becomes clear (and the author even says so on the album) that this project ultimately served a larger purpose: From start to finish, this project has helped the person develop a…

Hey you got it absolutely right.. i do these project for fun, as learning experiences, as self challenges and to keep the creative juices flowing.. it's how I enjoy spending my time and money haha

I love the work you did! There was some rambling about the RPi setup process - I fully agree that it can be time-consuming.

A good way to make that better is building one's own OS image. Once you get the scripts running (which is fairly easy), you can customize them to your liking, preinstall your software and config, etc. There's a lot of opportunities to save power and make the bootup quicker if you look through the scripts.

https://github.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by skarap »

kens wrote: post #3
kazinator wrote: post #2

Why specifically the GIF format internally? I haven't seen a GIF come out of a digital camera in ... ever, actually.

In the "new lingo", GIF means a short animated image loop. See, for example, /r/gifs or Twitter's "Add a GIF" feature. A "GIF" can be in .mp4 format, for instance, so there's little connection (other than historical) with the actual GIF image protocol.

It's... sad.

A few months ago a friend was asking whether I know a service to convert a gif to a video. Which was also sad.

Re: A camera that snaps a GIF and ejects a cartridge that displays it

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Post by oulipo »

hk__2 wrote: post #28
oulipo wrote: post #23

Really cool! As you are using a Raspberry Pi 3 you can add a 100% on-device Voice AI to it using https://snips.ai we would be interested to see how you can use this to add some cool interactions!

Please disclose your affiliation; you to linked to snips.ai in each one of your comments over the past month.

Sure, I'm one of the co-founder, I'm looking for people interested in building cool objects with Raspi! I'm not sure that one comment per week when I see a cool object should be considered as spam :)
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