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Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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post #29

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Perhaps not more likely, but since they run on heat, hurricanes could possibly become stronger in the future. I haven't seen any articles which reference research on this, as it's hard to filter out the ones with bias (in either direction).

"Perhaps not more likely, but since they run on heat, hurricanes could possibly become stronger in the future." They run on heat differential , like any heat engine. A uniform global temperature increase would likely have minimal effects.

No description of climate change involves uniform global temperature increase, just average global temperature increase.

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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post #61

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"Perhaps not more likely, but since they run on heat, hurricanes could possibly become stronger in the future." They run on heat differential , like any heat engine. A uniform global temperature increase would likely have minimal effects.

But the poles heat up faster than the equator, so we actually do have an increased differential. Edit: apparently someone doesn't believe me. Here's a source: http://www.npr.org/2014/12/18/371438087/arctic-is-warming-tw...

Since the poles are currently colder, them heating up faster than the equator decreases that temperature differential. I don't think that's precisely the differential at issue with Atlantic hurricanes, though.

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

#83
post #75

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Human CO2 contribution and the basic warming effect are well understood. Nature absorbs more CO2 than it emits, but not enough to offset the amount we are putting out. Thus, the global CO2 concentration has been rising over the past 100+ years, especially in recent decades. A higher CO2 concentration blocks more thermal radiation from exiting through Earth's atmosphere into space. When this energy is blocked, it stay…

> Human CO2 contribution and the basic warming effect are well understood. Could you please point me to your most convincing scientific argument, so that I can understand it too?

The argument was right below the line you replied to. Perhaps try reading?

A google search for "case for climate change" would also give you meaningful results. But, you already knew that.

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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These conversations are endless and repetitive. Both sides are fully entrenched in their positions and I don't know how we can come back to having productive discussions on this topic when both sides have already decided what they believe to be true. How can we talk about anything when we don't agree on the facts?

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

#85
post #75

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> Human CO2 contribution and the basic warming effect are well understood. Could you please point me to your most convincing scientific argument, so that I can understand it too?

The argument was right below the line you replied to. Perhaps try reading? A google search for "case for climate change" would also give you meaningful results. But, you already knew that.

Sorry, I meant a convincing piece of scientific reporting. I did read your echo chamber babble.

What are your sources? Care to cite one?

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

#86
post #61

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But the poles heat up faster than the equator, so we actually do have an increased differential. Edit: apparently someone doesn't believe me. Here's a source: http://www.npr.org/2014/12/18/371438087/arctic-is-warming-tw...

Since the poles are currently colder, them heating up faster than the equator decreases that temperature differential. I don't think that's precisely the differential at issue with Atlantic hurricanes, though.

Hah I'm an idiot. Thanks.

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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post #73

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I disagree that organizations such as AAAS, NASA, and NOAA aren't political. Perhaps you and I have different definitions of "political." Do you define it as "elected official?"

Are newspaper editors elected where you live?

Pretty much -- every reader and advertiser is essentially a voter.

Many more layers of indirection for NASA officials. Still, I think NASA has heaps of politics.

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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post #32

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Remember when Dr Roger Pielke Jr was fired because he didn't think climate change intensified hurricanes? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_A._Pielke_Jr . You might have that understanding because the media punishes disention.

> Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Roger A. Pielke Jr in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.

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Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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post #32

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Remember when Dr Roger Pielke Jr was fired because he didn't think climate change intensified hurricanes? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_A._Pielke_Jr . You might have that understanding because the media punishes disention.

> Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Roger A. Pielke Jr in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.

Huh. I think it's how HN parses the trailing suffix of '.' on the URL.

Re: Harvey Didn't Come Out of the Blue. Now Is the Time to Talk about Climate Change

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post #87

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Are newspaper editors elected where you live?

Pretty much -- every reader and advertiser is essentially a voter. Many more layers of indirection for NASA officials. Still, I think NASA has heaps of politics.

> Pretty much -- every reader and advertiser is essentially a voter.

That is not the least bit similar to being voted for.

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