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Re: Berlin Is Becoming a Sponge City [video]

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Interesting, but no new ideas. These rain water management ideas are being implemented for a couple of years now in The Netherlands when developing new real estate.

Also of note, the water system built after the 50's as a result of the recurring floodings in the area [1]

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works

Re: Berlin Is Becoming a Sponge City [video]

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Interesting, but no new ideas. These rain water management ideas are being implemented for a couple of years now in The Netherlands when developing new real estate.

What's your point? They acknowledge taking inspiration from another city where they already implemented this 20 years ago, that these particular ways of coping with climate change are considered proven technology, and that the only thing preventing more wide-spread adoption is political will.

Re: Berlin Is Becoming a Sponge City [video]

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Interesting, but no new ideas. These rain water management ideas are being implemented for a couple of years now in The Netherlands when developing new real estate.

And The Netherlands probably got the idea from China: https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/oct/01...

Re: Berlin Is Becoming a Sponge City [video]

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post #5
post #2

Interesting, but no new ideas. These rain water management ideas are being implemented for a couple of years now in The Netherlands when developing new real estate.

And The Netherlands probably got the idea from China: https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/oct/01...

Hopefully they steal good ideas from all over the place. The video mentions swales, which is a mainstay of permaculture, which has been tried out in various ways all over the world since the 70s.

Re: Berlin Is Becoming a Sponge City [video]

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These kinds of techniques are often claimed to be effective against flash floods, which makes sense since they slow down water transfer to rivers. Does anyone know any studies about how effective it could be against seriously heavy precipitation of the scale of Harvey or South Asia floods right now? In other words, how well does the approach scale?

Re: Berlin Is Becoming a Sponge City [video]

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post #7

These kinds of techniques are often claimed to be effective against flash floods, which makes sense since they slow down water transfer to rivers. Does anyone know any studies about how effective it could be against seriously heavy precipitation of the scale of Harvey or South Asia floods right now? In other words, how well does the approach scale?

I don't know of any studies but I would imagine a lot of variables come into play.

Soil Type & how deep of soil effects how much water the ground can soak up & how fast the water will run. All would be slower runoff than concrete.

Also the slope of the land would make a difference.

These are just the obvious ones. Bottlenecks, whether created on purpose or not would have a huge impact. Where I live we have large snowfall in the winter which creates ice jams & flash flooding in the spring.

I personally like the idea of this.

Re: Berlin Is Becoming a Sponge City [video]

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post #2

Interesting, but no new ideas. These rain water management ideas are being implemented for a couple of years now in The Netherlands when developing new real estate.

Also of note, the water system built after the 50's as a result of the recurring floodings in the area [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works

It is such a joy to see a methodical and rational long term planning response to a problem.
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