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Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by wodenokoto » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:20 PM UTC

ThomPete wrote: post #27

wodenokoto wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Denmark we have two major economic think tanks, that are respectively self-declared right wing and left wing and they continually release results supporting expanded welfare and the other expanded free trade / lower tax. It is ridiculous that either is taken serious.

They aren't though. They are used by the political parties but no one takes them seriously.

Given how much space in newspapers that CEPOS' press releases gets, I'm considering it as being taken serious.

I couldn't put out press release on my amateur research and expect to get articles printed in several national papers, simply because they wouldn't take me seriously.

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by itg » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:21 PM UTC

turk183 wrote: post #39

I just spent the better part of a week getting myself off of GMail. I'm still using Chrome at work for development, but have Brave browser for personal use now. I'm using DuckDuckGo for searches. I have an iPhone, but honestly, I don't trust Apple to not act like total dumbasses and so I am now lamenting the consolidation in the smart phone space. Google and these other companies are blowing themselves up over idioti…

What email service did you switch to? I'm thinking of doing the same.

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by cisanti » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:22 PM UTC

If U.S or E.U would want to break up Google, how would it realistically work?

I hope we see that happening, the company has become a monster and can literally tell the world what to think and how to feel.

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by appleflaxen » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:24 PM UTC

zentiggr wrote: post #7

And we are shown again that Google is now large enough and has enough enough influence that it's only serious opponent is the EU. A continent. Do no evil indeed.

[pedantic] the EU is not a continent: it's a trade bloc.

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by sweep4r » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:24 PM UTC

itg wrote: post #42

turk183 wrote: post #39

I just spent the better part of a week getting myself off of GMail. I'm still using Chrome at work for development, but have Brave browser for personal use now. I'm using DuckDuckGo for searches. I have an iPhone, but honestly, I don't trust Apple to not act like total dumbasses and so I am now lamenting the consolidation in the smart phone space. Google and these other companies are blowing themselves up over idioti…

What email service did you switch to? I'm thinking of doing the same.

I personally switched to ProtonMail, but I lament there's no IMAP access.

If you don't mind paying you can use FastMail

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by yuhong » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:26 PM UTC

I think the big problem is the ad bubble not Google itself at this point, though these kind of problems still needs to be traced.

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by ThomPete » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:26 PM UTC

wodenokoto wrote: post #41

ThomPete wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't though. They are used by the political parties but no one takes them seriously.

Given how much space in newspapers that CEPOS' press releases gets, I'm considering it as being taken serious. I couldn't put out press release on my amateur research and expect to get articles printed in several national papers, simply because they wouldn't take me seriously.

CEPOs and AE get approximately the same airtime. I don't like any one them but claiming that somehow CEPOS gets more simply isn't supported by evidence.

Furthermore they get less and less time because they do more and more lobbying.

http://www.altinget.dk/civilsamfund/artikel/taenketanke-faar...

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:28 PM UTC

KGIII wrote: post #38

notyourday wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really should say: "Lay with the dogs, wake up with the fleas"

To be fair, it doesn't say for whom it is the right thing.

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Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by wavefunction » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:29 PM UTC

kushti wrote: post #31

fowlerpower wrote: post #17

The thing is that Google has absolutely gone down questionable path from their early days. It is a little unfair to think this problem exists only within Google. Time and time again we are reminded why corporations will evolve to become as greedy and as protective of their turf expansive of their power and monopolistic as they can get, even if good people are running them. It is the system itself that does this, corp…

But others didn't start with "Do No Evil" motto (transformed now into "Do the Right Thing").

Soon to be "Just Do It" with "It" for unspecified moralities.

Re: Google Critic Ousted from Think Tank Funded by the Tech Giant

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Post by davidmr » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 1:30 PM UTC

mondoshawan wrote: post #26

I'm not normally a grammar pedant, but i had to reread the first two opening paragraphs several times before I understood what was going on: > The New America Foundation has received more than $21 million from Google; its parent company’s executive chairman, Eric Schmidt; and his family’s foundation since the think tank’s founding in 1999. Semicolons aren't glorified commas. Stop it. Bad! Bad! :-p

The comma in the second element allows—I would even say requires—one to separate elements of a list with semicolons. I don’t have a copy of the NYT Style Guide, but I just consulted my Chicago Style guide, and it is explicitly permitted.

Grammarians have spoken!