24/192 Music Downloads Are Very Silly Indeed (2012)

Post by nullc » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 4:12 AM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #147

Const-me wrote: post #134

If the only thing you do with your music is listen, then yes, 24/192 delivers questionable value compared to the more popular 16/44.1 or 16/48 formats. However, all musicians I know use these high-rez formats internally. The reason for that, when you apply audio effects, especially complex VST ones, these discretization artifacts noticeably decrease the result quality. Maybe, the musicians who distribute their music…

I do not believe it. 24 bits is definitely needed for processing (better yet, use floating-point). Not 192 kHz; no friggin' way. Repeated processing through multiple blocks at a given sample rate does not produce cumulative discretization problems in the time domain; it's just not how the math works.

Post by function_seven » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 4:13 AM UTC

arrrvalue wrote: post #151

romwell wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>as engineers we will never solve this problem [reproduce a live acoustic music performance] as long as the "44.1kHz is good enough" dogma is perpetuated It's the opposite. We are never going to solve this problem if we are going to focus on things that have nothing to do with the problem. Compare and contrast: >as engineers we will never solve this problem as long as the "copper wires are good enough" dogma is perpe…

interesting viewpoint, however, did you think about the experiment I presented? without an answer, sample rate and cabling cannot be considered equivalent distractions on the road to high fidelity.

Post by kevin_thibedeau » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 4:16 AM UTC

byproxy wrote: post #162

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #118

Makes me long for the day when consumer audio products were proudly labeled as having a 1-bit DAC. Nowadays you couldn't sell audio hardware that made such truthful statements about its internals. Gotta have the bits.

Hey, they still do. And it's 'audiophile.' DSD is 1-bit, but with a very high sampling rate (2.8224 MHz). Though, as far as I know there isn't actually any quality boost vs PCM.

Post by rblatz » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 4:18 AM UTC

donatj wrote: post #192

Contrary to what he says, I can most certainly see some IR remotes. Not super bright but enough to notice. Same goes for the IR lights in my Kinect.

Post by sk5t » Wed, Aug 30, 2017, 4:22 AM UTC

amygdyl wrote: post #127

jahnu wrote: post #18

I've said it before, this video demo is one of the very best I've ever seen. https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml So well prepared, so well presented, so little that could be removed without ruining it. I aspire to do such good demos but always fall so short.

I felt that the presenter is a very rare example of a engineer who felt that his expression and purpose was attractive to his imagined audience. Without diversion via the questions embedded in the profession and the perception and self perception of the male geek working and academic world, I so rarely see a presenter reacting to a sense of apparent human warmth in the room, and beyond the lens, which even with the m…