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Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

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Re: Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

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I'd not come across the different levels of autonomous driving before.

0 No Driving Automation

1 Driver Assistance

2 Partial Driving Automation

3 Conditional Driving Automation

4 High Driving Automation

5 Full Driving Automation

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car#Levels_of_dri...

Re: Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

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I'm sure he's right, but then why is everyone joining the race now? Wouldn't it be way less expensive to wait until at least some of the problems are solved?

Also, it sure seems like level 5 autonomous driving is just a few steps short of general AI, which is still lightyears away.

Re: Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

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One thing I would love someone to explain is how can people assume cars are going to be automated soon when both planes and trains haven't been automated for various reasons. They are different issues I have gathered but essentially shouldn't trains be dead simple but to this day at least the trains(not metras though) often have someone to stop the train in case of emergencies. Planes are more complex but have lower crash ratings and less obstacles but can't stop and still have 2 plus pilots.

Re: Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

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One thing I would love someone to explain is how can people assume cars are going to be automated soon when both planes and trains haven't been automated for various reasons. They are different issues I have gathered but essentially shouldn't trains be dead simple but to this day at least the trains(not metras though) often have someone to stop the train in case of emergencies. Planes are more complex but have lower…

vehicular traffic is a cluster.. esp with the variables involving non autonomous cars, non-vehicular traffic... random objects that end up in the road compounding the complexities of all other variables.

Re: Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

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I'm sure he's right, but then why is everyone joining the race now? Wouldn't it be way less expensive to wait until at least some of the problems are solved? Also, it sure seems like level 5 autonomous driving is just a few steps short of general AI, which is still lightyears away.

Not sure how waiting would help. The solution is primarily software, and I'm not sure how one company can learn from its competitors' private code. The only way to get there is to start along that long road.

Re: Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

#9

I'm sure he's right, but then why is everyone joining the race now? Wouldn't it be way less expensive to wait until at least some of the problems are solved? Also, it sure seems like level 5 autonomous driving is just a few steps short of general AI, which is still lightyears away.

Start early and patent early to maintain market share and relevance.

This is obvious even now with the Waymo v Uber lawsuit.

Re: Toyota Research Institute head says full autonomous driving is “not even close”

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One thing I would love someone to explain is how can people assume cars are going to be automated soon when both planes and trains haven't been automated for various reasons. They are different issues I have gathered but essentially shouldn't trains be dead simple but to this day at least the trains(not metras though) often have someone to stop the train in case of emergencies. Planes are more complex but have lower…

less economic or safety incentive with those modes of transportation. there's much more to be gained by automating cars and trucks.
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