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Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Merriam-Webster dictionary disagrees: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/octopus

Oxford Dictionary disagrees with Merriam-Webster: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/octopus

This whole discussion is somewhat moot as a real biologist would almost always write "species of octopus", singular.

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Here's another story/fact that should be included. There's a species of octopi that live in groups. On nights with bright moon, predators can identify them because they cast a shadow. They have evolved an organ to intake particular bacteria that use what's called quorum sensing to detect when there's enough of them around. When the organ is full of these bacteria, the bacteria glow and therefore stop the shadow of th…

The squid symbiosis is mentioned in the article. Oh and btw, it's octopuses or octopodes (greek not latin, fyi).

Oh you are right. I only quickly read the first paragraph or two of that section about the light in the eyes.

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Merriam-Webster dictionary disagrees: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/octopus

What's popular isn't always correct and dictionaries by definition reflect usage. That is unless it doesn't literally kill you that literally now actually means figuratively too.

What's the point of being "correct" if nobody understands you?

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Here's another story/fact that should be included. There's a species of octopi that live in groups. On nights with bright moon, predators can identify them because they cast a shadow. They have evolved an organ to intake particular bacteria that use what's called quorum sensing to detect when there's enough of them around. When the organ is full of these bacteria, the bacteria glow and therefore stop the shadow of th…

Social Octopuses? GTFO? Really? I must know more (as I am an avid octopus junky) and I thought that octopus were not social .. Got any more specifics?

I could be wrong about that. I learned this in a microbiology course 10 years ago. So the focus was on the bacteria and the quorum sensing rather than the ecology of the octopus.

Here's the wiki on the octopus species though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euprymna_scolopes

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Most all waves glow at night. But to see it with the naked eye you need proper darkness. Ocean + waves + darkness = bad idea. So i cannot suggest anyone go looking for this.

There are significantly different levels of bioluminescence. You see some regularly. Occasionally it's truly glowing. Once I saw it at incredible levels. I was fortunate to be with friends and a spot we could swim. We were diving from about 3m above the water and watching our bodies go through the water leaving these tunnels of glow. If you were the diver and looked back your skin was glowing. Very cool and I can sug…

Where was that and at what time in the year?

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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The ocean is a fantastic place. We've recently crossed the Bay of Biscay under sail and have seen many pods of dolphins, bio-luminescence in our wake at night and the stars in a way you can only see far away from any source of light.

Here's some dolphins for you (daytime though): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lWmOhS83kU

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Here's another story/fact that should be included. There's a species of octopi that live in groups. On nights with bright moon, predators can identify them because they cast a shadow. They have evolved an organ to intake particular bacteria that use what's called quorum sensing to detect when there's enough of them around. When the organ is full of these bacteria, the bacteria glow and therefore stop the shadow of th…

> When the organ is full of these bacteria, the bacteria glow and therefore stop the shadow of the octopi.

It seems weird because the animal itself would be a lot more visible.

This wikipedia article [1] about firefly squid says that the animal uses it's ability to match the brightness and colour of its underside to the light coming from the surface, making it difficult for predators to detect it from below

Is that it?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_squid

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Here's another story/fact that should be included. There's a species of octopi that live in groups. On nights with bright moon, predators can identify them because they cast a shadow. They have evolved an organ to intake particular bacteria that use what's called quorum sensing to detect when there's enough of them around. When the organ is full of these bacteria, the bacteria glow and therefore stop the shadow of th…

> When the organ is full of these bacteria, the bacteria glow and therefore stop the shadow of the octopi. It seems weird because the animal itself would be a lot more visible. This wikipedia article [1] about firefly squid says that the animal uses it's ability to match the brightness and colour of its underside to the light coming from the surface, making it difficult for predators to detect it from below Is that i…

Here is the species that I learned about. [1] As I mentioned in another comment, I learned about this in a microbiology course so the focus was on the Vibrio species of bacteria, not as much about the octopus.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euprymna_scolopes

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social Octopuses? GTFO? Really? I must know more (as I am an avid octopus junky) and I thought that octopus were not social .. Got any more specifics?

I could be wrong about that. I learned this in a microbiology course 10 years ago. So the focus was on the bacteria and the quorum sensing rather than the ecology of the octopus. Here's the wiki on the octopus species though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euprymna_scolopes

I see. This is a sepiolidae. In a different superorder than octopuses then. Neither a squid nor a octopus; a close relative to cuttlefishes.

Re: The ocean is a strange place after dark

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The ocean is a fantastic place. We've recently crossed the Bay of Biscay under sail and have seen many pods of dolphins, bio-luminescence in our wake at night and the stars in a way you can only see far away from any source of light. Here's some dolphins for you (daytime though): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lWmOhS83kU

A nice pod of common short-beaked dolphins (Delphinus delphis) :-)
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