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Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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Dogs yeah, they're omnivores as far as I understand. Cats though are straight up carnivore, and while they might enjoy the taste of some veggies, and some stuff can help with their digestion, they don't really get much nutrients out of vegetables, and a large portion of veggies are downright harmful to them.

Cats are obligate carnivores. Dogs are carnivores. They need protein, fat and bone.

incorrect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog#Diet

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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My dogs get human grade food. None of this 'maybe good enough for people' stuff. They get real meat and vegetables that are in a recognizable form. They also don't get table scraps. This means my dogs aren't eating dodgy Chinese proteins, and also aren't fat (you may have noticed but most of the food we eat here in the US is terrible for us).

My dogs eat only raw meat. Cooked meat can remove important nutrients like vitamin C from the meat that dogs rely on. I also supplement my dogs with 150 mg/day of magnesium glycinate. I shudder when I see these prematurely aging dogs at the park, thanks to neglectful owners only feeding them scraps.

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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For the environmentally conscious couple, a dog or cat is an excellent replacement for the exceptionally wasteful human baby. From that perspective, re-directing your baby instincts into a dog instead of another human is a great way to reduce your carbon footprint.

A vegan kid seems like a preferable replacement.

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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My dogs get human grade food. None of this 'maybe good enough for people' stuff. They get real meat and vegetables that are in a recognizable form. They also don't get table scraps. This means my dogs aren't eating dodgy Chinese proteins, and also aren't fat (you may have noticed but most of the food we eat here in the US is terrible for us).

My dogs eat only raw meat. Cooked meat can remove important nutrients like vitamin C from the meat that dogs rely on. I also supplement my dogs with 150 mg/day of magnesium glycinate. I shudder when I see these prematurely aging dogs at the park, thanks to neglectful owners only feeding them scraps.

Like most mammals, dogs are able to synthesize vitamin C.

Humans and guinea pigs lost the ability to mutations.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3145266/

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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> A lot of this is probably influenced by perceptions of "poor-people food" (like lobster) Since when is lobster considered a "poor-people food"? That is the exact impression I get when it's the most expensive entree on most menus.

It was until the mid-19th century. Prior to this time, lobster was considered a mark of poverty or as a food for indentured servants or lower members of society in Maine, Massachusetts, and the Canadian Maritimes. It has been suggested servants specified in employment agreements that they would not eat lobster more than twice per week, however there is no evidence for this. Lobster was also commonly served in prisons…

Oysters too

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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Having worked in a meat processing plant, I can assure you that no humans would want to eat anything that goes into "rendering" for use in pet food. I'm not talking about offal, tripe, small goods, etc., all of which have markets for human consumption. Some of those items are high margin, too. There are markets somewhere in the world for just about every last bit of an animal. The only stuff that goes into pet food i…

Interesting fact, thank you. I didn't know anything about the use of animal blood in medicine. Good to know we can find uses for most things to reduce waste.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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Clickbaity title. Original: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats Anyway,it's not like the article seems like being a particularly good one, while it cites the concept that meat fed to pets is (largely) not suitable for human consumption, doesn't take into account the actual related impact and vaguely talks of post-processing the non-suitable parts. The IMHO terrible part is this one: >And much p…

Philip K. Dick famously ate horse meat prepared as pet food at various times in his life. Whether this was out of necessity or because of preference is open for debate.

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cats are obligate carnivores. Dogs are carnivores. They need protein, fat and bone.

incorrect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog#Diet

What is incorrect? I implied that they're not obligate by contrasting them with cats.

They forage when in a fasted state.

And no, they have no carbohydrate requirement. Yes they'll eat it. They have some omnivorous capability. So do wolves, clearly carnivores though.

Teeth, digestive system and behaviour clearly show this.

How do wolves get calcium? Bone.

Re: Environmental impacts of food consumption by dogs and cats

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Article makes many implausible assumptions and the conclusion is too radical for at least the amount of effort thats been put into bringing this article together.

It's obvious that the author hates dogs and cats and thus wants to reduce their numbers. Ad hominem might have been your best friend right here - the conclusion is agenda-based and doesnt follow directly from the paper, so either ignore it or make it so that Osin never has access to any publishing facility ever again. And dont forget to wash your hands after reading his research.

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