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Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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I haven't used my Facebook account in years, ever since they recommended I connected with a person I'd known for 20+ years but with whom I shared no connections or commonalities apart from our nationality. As I remember it, neither of us had listed schools, jobs or interests in our profiles. Maybe it was a coincidence but it made me very anxious so I left the platform.

Maybe it was a coincidence but it made me very anxious so I left the platform. What were you anxious about happening as a result?

"In practice, the forced revelation of information makes individual privilege and power more important. When everyone has to play with their cards on the table, so to speak, then people who feel like they can be themselves without consequence do so freely -- these generally being people with support groups of like-minded people, and who are neither economically nor physically vulnerable. People who are more vulnerable to consequences use concealment as a method of protection: it makes it possible to speak freely about controversial subjects, or even about any subjects, without fear of harassment."

-- Yonatan Zunger, former chief architect, Google+

https://plus.google.com/+YonatanZunger/posts/WegYVNkZQqq

There are further historical lines of reasoning. Hacker News and its editors don't care to see them discussed:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15105784

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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And who builds this machine and how do they tune/debug/improve it? Pretty sure any given computation could be traced, though it might take a bit of work and need to be captured fairly quickly...

I've been to machine learning talks where the presenters freely admitted they weren't exactly sure how what they made works. Reminds me of this comic: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2460#comic

I was thinking this one https://xkcd.com/1838/

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They probably know your neighbors because you both have the same SSIDs in your vicinity.. I don't see FB not knowing this. Or if you allowed GPS, and neighbors did too, then it's even easier to make the connection.

My co-workers from the office are frequently recommended to me on FB. Since I don't have their number, it must be location based.

If you both use the same wifi, then it could see you as the same IP address and recommend you to each other.

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Then why use it?

I don’t except for signing on to other sites (its easier than creating and remembering a password) and for Wi-fi in Barbados (I’m not paying their mobile data rates).

Facebook has free Wi-fi in Barbados? Hey what happen to the other Caribbean >:(

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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post #122

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I've been to machine learning talks where the presenters freely admitted they weren't exactly sure how what they made works. Reminds me of this comic: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2460#comic

I was thinking this one https://xkcd.com/1838/

Also a good one, which reminds me of devs saying it's really hard to write tests for ML algorithms.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

#127

I deleted my FB account 6 years ago. A couple of weeks ago I bought on Amazon a kit to connect the dish-washing machine (I have uBlock and Ghostery). I told my wife about the purchase and 10 minutes later she sees the exact same kit that I bought in her FB ads. Does this mean that Amazon sells/shares this data or I am too paranoid? However it's hard to believe in such a coincidence.

Your credit card or email provider may sell data to Facebook.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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> It was not a very convincing excuse. Facebook gets people to hand over information about themselves all the time; by what principle would it be unreasonable to sometimes hand some of that information back? You are not "handing" them anything with an expectation of reciprocity, you (in most cases) willingly give up information about yourself to them in exchange for their free service. They don't need an "excuse" - y…

> You are not "handing" them anything with an expectation of reciprocity, you (in most cases) willingly give up information about yourself to them in exchange for their free service. They don't need an "excuse" - you were as free to say "no" as they are to you. You are not free to say no to facebook. You do not hand your information to them, they take it. There's a reason they buy information from "data brokers", and…

> You are not free to say no to facebook.

Funny, that's exactly what I and many others did/do.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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Hold on. That article says that Trump claimed there was "blame on both sides", followed by open repudiation of neo-Nazis and the KKK as "criminals and thugs". I'm not being intentionally obtuse: failure to condemn neo-Nazis and white supremacists is a pretty huge failing for a president (though no worse than what I expect of Donald Trump), and those who condemned his remarks were absolutely right. But words have mean…

Trump pardoned someone who bragged about his self-described "concentration camps" and policing practices targeting people of Latin American descent, then bragged about how he wasn't going to listen to judges who told him to stop doing it. (Among literally hundreds of other instances of corruption, cover-ups, civil rights violations, and humanitarian abuses.) I don't know how much more explicit you expect his support…

> I don't know how much more explicit you expect his support of white supremacists to be.

Dude, are you kidding me? You're looking at someone who said:

“Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,”

and you can't think of a way for him to support them less? Are you really that obtuse, or are you just playing dumb?

Here's a really simple, utterly obvious way he could have been closer to "open support" (other than uh, openly expressing support......): _not repudiating them_. I honestly can't believe I just sincerely explained a tautology to someone.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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> You are not "handing" them anything with an expectation of reciprocity, you (in most cases) willingly give up information about yourself to them in exchange for their free service. They don't need an "excuse" - you were as free to say "no" as they are to you. You are not free to say no to facebook. You do not hand your information to them, they take it. There's a reason they buy information from "data brokers", and…

> You are not free to say no to facebook. Funny, that's exactly what I and many others did/do.

How?

Seriously, would love to know. They keep a profile for any person that they think a facebook member knows, so how do I stop them from creating that profile?

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