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DIY Powerwall Builders Are Using Recycled Laptop Batteries to Power Their Homes

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post #62

I take old laptop batteries apart and use the cells for USB power banks. You can buy cases off of eBay for a couple bucks that hold two cells and have USB connectors and a charge controller built in. It's no Powerwall, but they're still very useful. I power my bike light with them.

Would you mind posting a link to the specific case you use?

This one is better: http://www.thrunite.com/thrunite-c2-3400-mah-compact-portabl... I asked for old laptop batteries from my relatives/friends, so I have currently around 30 of them. I also use it a lot for my bike light and hiking light.

I bought the latest version of the C2 and it charges perfectly.

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#73

This sounds like it could be rather dangerous, no? Connecting up a bunch of old lithium cells of unknown origin and using them hard. I'd also worry about an insurance claim being denied if it burned my house down. However, I very much approve of the DIY ingenuity and repurposing of old stuff.

Very much so, a very good read:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?141137-In...

And also: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/45314

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#74
post #70

Question.. All my device lithium batteries seem to lose ~70% of their ability to hold charge after 500-1000 cycles, however the tesla car batteries/powerwall claim to give a decade+ of use despite being built of the same cells. How does that work?

There is more battery in the box than what they advertise/offer up for you to use.. I.e. there are spares built in. Also they have spent a lot of time/energy/hardware making the environment the batteries live in, as close to ideal as possible (i.e. thermal cooling, etc).

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post #70

Question.. All my device lithium batteries seem to lose ~70% of their ability to hold charge after 500-1000 cycles, however the tesla car batteries/powerwall claim to give a decade+ of use despite being built of the same cells. How does that work?

I believe most of the physical damage done to a battery occurs either near 0 or 100% charge, and assume that automotive batteries are less frequently fully depleted.

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#77
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there is a big difference between someone specifically buying them for use in a high-discharge device like a flashlight or vaporizer versus picking up a pack at Walmart next to the AA/AAA You can find 18650s for sale on walmart.com . I'm not sure if the physical stores carry them, because there aren't any where I live, but I know that in Shenzhen/HK and other parts of Asia you can easily find 18650s for sale amon…

> I'm not sure if the physical stores carry them Flashlight geek here. Several people on flashlight forums have reported finding the Westinghouse branded 18650s in physical Walmart stores. They have a low capacity - 2000 mAh, compared to 3000-3500 for the latest cells from Sony/LG/Samsung/Sanyo/Panasonic. They also use a cell of unknown manufacture, so I can't be sure of the quality. Specialty battery stores, higher-…

> Flashlight geek here.

Can I ask a flashlight question? :) How do I tell how many lumens a flashlight really is? I go on Amazon and I see XyzFire flashlights that claim to give out many more lumens than would make sense, and many times they're inconsistent on the page itself. I don't know how to really tell. (If it matters, I'm trying to find a flashlight that fits in my pocket, is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011B1U2QS)

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post #57
post #46

I appreciate the engineering and time people are putting into these projects. I absolutely hate the way this article is portraying these people's work. These are not "consumers who can't afford commercially produced powerwalls." These are people who could probably work professionally in the field if they're not already. These projects are not "a little research, invested time, and a little ingenuity," they are the cu…

I really agree with you. The idea of a homebuilt powerwall sounds really cool. But it's not something I would come close to working with. Awhile ago I did a some volunteer work at a radio station. One of my tasks was to check for arcing. That involved going into the transformer room, disabling the safety systems, unracking some of the electrical components, powering the system on, turning off the lights and then look…

Yeah i have read enough scary stories about people dealing with 18650 cells (effectively AA sized lithium batteries used in high powered flashlights etc), that trying to build a powerbank from used laptop batteries with enough capacity to handle domestic appliances is not something i would undertake.

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post #2

One of the really disappointing things about Tesla is how incredibly proprietary all of their products are. For a company that has such lofty goals as "saving the world", it feels wrong to me for them to then sell DRM cars and unrepairable black boxes. Maybe I'm just too idealistic, but surely if we have an opportunity to create a new market for solar devices why would we decide to recreate the proprietary world of t…

My annoyance with Tesla is somewhat related. I don't like that I can't simply buy a Powerwall or solar roof tiles. I would have to hire one of their approved installers, which increases the cost remarkably. I don't know the markup, because you can't get flat materials pricing data from Tesla, or couldn't last time I checked, but I know labor for solar installation and electrical work is quite high. I understand why t…

Imagine the bad PR you would get when your product kills your customers.
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