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Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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This isn't 2010, when US smartphone adoption was growing exponentially and the "app economy" was in full swing. The majority of smartphone owners have had phones for a few years now and know exactly which apps they need on a daily basis, be it messaging, social media, games, note-taking, nutrition, transportation, etc.

For everything else mobile websites are more than good enough to cover their needs I imagine.

Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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It may be just me, but every time I download an app I have a feeling that I'm signing in into something that will do whatever it wants on my phone - geolocation, read address book, access the internet? for what? And then, you know, there are these things called "websites" that you access using a single app called "browser" that end up being pretty useful even on your phone.

This is exactly why I don't download apps. I proxied my phone one day and almost fell out of my chair. I'm shocked Google and Apple allow this to go on.

What was the most unexpected thing you found?

Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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post #13

It may be just me, but every time I download an app I have a feeling that I'm signing in into something that will do whatever it wants on my phone - geolocation, read address book, access the internet? for what? And then, you know, there are these things called "websites" that you access using a single app called "browser" that end up being pretty useful even on your phone.

An iOS app can't access anything significantly different than a website can, unless you give it permissions to.

Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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post #13

It may be just me, but every time I download an app I have a feeling that I'm signing in into something that will do whatever it wants on my phone - geolocation, read address book, access the internet? for what? And then, you know, there are these things called "websites" that you access using a single app called "browser" that end up being pretty useful even on your phone.

An iOS app can't access anything significantly different than a website can, unless you give it permissions to.

I can't speak for iOS but many Android apps I've used always ask for crazy permissions and then refuse to work unless I say yes.

My biggest fear, as silly as this may sound, is an app that wants my phone book will contact the people in that phone book for some reason. For example, to tell them that I'm a possible person to add to their Derpchat friends list. My phone book is a useless listing of past professional, personal, and educational contacts whom I don't have a relationship with anymore. I have no idea how it gets auto filled with 99% people I don't want in there but I just don't trust it. I'm afraid I'll accidentally ping someone from my past.

Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An iOS app can't access anything significantly different than a website can, unless you give it permissions to.

I can't speak for iOS but many Android apps I've used always ask for crazy permissions and then refuse to work unless I say yes. My biggest fear, as silly as this may sound, is an app that wants my phone book will contact the people in that phone book for some reason. For example, to tell them that I'm a possible person to add to their Derpchat friends list. My phone book is a useless listing of past professional, pe…

So delete your contacts, and keep them in something else such as a simple document.

Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure that's how most app conception begins. How can they gather as much user data as possible, or as many videos micropayments as possible. I think that most apps only exist so that some company can get a tracking device onto your phone.

Permission systems are fairly good in both Android and iOS now, though. Note: I agree that protecting your data is important, I don't want to downplay that.

The problem is not that permissions are pretty good. The problem is that you have to give many apps way too many permissions to work.

Let's make an example; I use the FitBit tracker and quite like it. I also use its own Android app. A few months ago, they decided that in order to sync you need to enable GPS. Now, there is no reason on Earth why I need to turn on GPS to download data from my watch and upload it to FitBit's server. Still, no permission or GPS disabled = no sync.

Frankly, I do not think this is in my best interest. And I wonder how many of their user-base noticed the change of permissions.

Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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I work for comScore, on one of their major applications with this data and others. We are always hiring and need many more engineers. Most of the work is .NET, but 30-40% is other languages. As you can tell, we have large data teams, dealing in a multiple of quadrillion records. Free snacks, nice open floor plan and good benefits. Our President is also doing good things to move the company forward and being very open…

>Free snacks, nice open floor plan

Why do companies think either of these things are a selling point?

Re: Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore

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post #13

It may be just me, but every time I download an app I have a feeling that I'm signing in into something that will do whatever it wants on my phone - geolocation, read address book, access the internet? for what? And then, you know, there are these things called "websites" that you access using a single app called "browser" that end up being pretty useful even on your phone.

This is exactly why I don't download apps. I proxied my phone one day and almost fell out of my chair. I'm shocked Google and Apple allow this to go on.

I was under the impression that mitmproxy is no longer effective with iOS's mandatory pinned certificates. How did you manage to intercept traffic?
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