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Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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I would imagine Facebook keeps placeholders for people you know that are not on Facebook. His father had made a contact with one of the relatives not on FB but with the other name. Perhaps the great aunt had him in her contacts as well. A name and/or phone number can represent a person in the graph without being a FB user. Why they made a suggestion so many degrees away is a little curious, but I think they mix those…

This is well known, and it's called 'shadow profiles'.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

#32

So do we think Facebook and Amazon are just figuring out every relation between things in the world and they'll work out how to monetize it later? Or, what exactly is the hypothesis here? I have seen them accused of some pretty impressive leaps of inference lately.

Re: Amazon:

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-d...

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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And this is why under German law the BDSG §34 exists, which allows every citizen to request, once every 12 months, for free, from every company a list of all data the company has on the citizen, how they got it, whom they gave it to, and all statistical models that were derived from the data, or that had an influence on the data. It’d be interesting to make a BDSG §34 request about "People you may know", just to see…

Do you know anyone who has requested all this information, seen how it was provided and was able to make sense of it, especially from a platform like Facebook? What format is the information provided as? HTML files with graphs? XML files (gasp)?

> What format is the information provided as? HTML files with graphs? XML files (gasp)?

PDF: https://hayvan-storage-wordpress-master-studiowien.s3.amazon...

That's Max Schrems (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Schrems) with his 1222 pages of FB data.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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I'm getting a 404 This link seems to be working https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/08/facebook-figured-out-my-f...

Thanks, we updated the link from https://www.gizmodo.com/2017/08/facebook-figured-out-my-fami... but kept the .com site.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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I've just assumed this is through whatsapp. I've logged into whatsapp with my phone number, fb know my phone number (2fa codes), and they've slurped my address book from my phone and then show me connections on fb that are a few degrees of separation. This is the only way I can think that neighbours I barely know show up on the "people you may know" feature -- we're connected through neighbours I know far better.

You are 100% correct about this. People have appeared on "People you may know" when I have absolutely zero connection to them other than I have chatted to the on What's App... I'm afraid I may have to stop using the service soon... was great until FB bought it.

I don't use WhatsApp. Most of the people I know don't. People have appeared on my suggested contacts when I have no other connection with them.

Clearly Facebook uses many, many sources of data.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

#37
post #11

And this is why under German law the BDSG §34 exists, which allows every citizen to request, once every 12 months, for free, from every company a list of all data the company has on the citizen, how they got it, whom they gave it to, and all statistical models that were derived from the data, or that had an influence on the data. It’d be interesting to make a BDSG §34 request about "People you may know", just to see…

Do you know anyone who has requested all this information, seen how it was provided and was able to make sense of it, especially from a platform like Facebook? What format is the information provided as? HTML files with graphs? XML files (gasp)?

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Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

#38

So do we think Facebook and Amazon are just figuring out every relation between things in the world and they'll work out how to monetize it later? Or, what exactly is the hypothesis here? I have seen them accused of some pretty impressive leaps of inference lately.

Re: Amazon: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-d...

Cool link.

Re: Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, and It Won't Tell Me How

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post #12

I've just assumed this is through whatsapp. I've logged into whatsapp with my phone number, fb know my phone number (2fa codes), and they've slurped my address book from my phone and then show me connections on fb that are a few degrees of separation. This is the only way I can think that neighbours I barely know show up on the "people you may know" feature -- we're connected through neighbours I know far better.

You are 100% correct about this. People have appeared on "People you may know" when I have absolutely zero connection to them other than I have chatted to the on What's App... I'm afraid I may have to stop using the service soon... was great until FB bought it.

Im stating to use signal. Except network effect is strong...
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