This was a triumph. • Hacker News Board

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by JesseAldridge » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:02 AM UTC

patio11 wrote: post #4

lispygem wrote: post #2

Don't you think they should be showing comments from "gold" users differently? Kind of like what PG did a while ago using different colors highlight distinguished users...

That would segment Reddit immediately into at least four communities among the gold/ungold and supports-highlighting/opposes-highlighting axes, and I suspect many members of those communities are going to be violently passionate that only their position is acceptable for True Reddit Supporters and that the heretics must burn.

Judging from the comment thread[1], it looks like that's already happening.

The top rated comment starts, "As someone who donated..."

And from the second highest comment, 'I will not be "donating" money to a corporation which has shown no real initiative in growing the site.'

That said, I think any drama would just be background noise for the vast majority of users. People go to reddit for entertaining links and funny or interesting comments. Drama doesn't threaten that.

[1] http://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/cotz3/this_wa...

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by mahmud » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:06 AM UTC

olefoo wrote: post #10

mahmud wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be their undoing. The last thing egalitarian reddit needs is a class system. Or maybe I am wrong, Slashdot has been starring their paid subscribes for ages, but I am not sure reddit wants to stoop to slashdot levels.

Stoop to? I love reddit dearly, but there are some days when you could run it through. sed -e 's/narwal/Natalie Portman/' and get something that was recognizably slashdot circa 2002.

Depends on which section you read. I introduced my fiancee to /r/IAmA and she thinks reddit is mostly about child molesting drug-dealers who fly fighter-jets and rescue endangered species, because they were raised in a polygamist cult family living in the Everest base camp.

To me it's mostly proggit, hastily scanned once every 1-2 days.

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by blhack » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:07 AM UTC

demoon wrote: post #8

Congrats to reddit team, despite some frequent "this is not reddit" remarks here on HN I still love that community. Out of curiosity I just checked compete.com and was disappointed to learn that Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error.

>Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error.

Could somebody please explain this sentiment to me? I feel like all the "cool kids" are constantly falling over one another to talk about who hates digg the most.

Is there some trove of horrible things that Kevin Rose has done floating around somewhere or something? I used to watch diggnation every week, and he genuinely seemed like an incredibly nice guy. Why so much hate for him? He's living what I think a lot of us dream about. He's got an incredibly popular website, he's got tons of funding, he's got lots of very brilliant engineers working for him, and he's really really young...

He's living the freaking life, guys, and as far as I can tell he hasn't ever done anything to deserve all the hatred.

As far as digg itself goes...why is it always being comparied to reddit? To me, this is about as apt as comparing reddit to msnbc.com; they're not even in the same category of websites.

Digg is very link-centric. It's all about links, lots an lots of links.

Reddit, on the other hand, is all about comments.

I guess a good comparison would be youtube vs some very popular web forums. On reddit, it's all about the discussion. the comment system they put together is freaking outstanding (when it's working), and that is why people go to the site. Digg is more like youtube; nobody really cares about youtube comments (they're mostly crap anyway), they're there for the video.

Digg and reddit are fundamentally different. Please stop comparing them, and please let me know what it is that everybody hates so much about the former.

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by brainlock » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:07 AM UTC

GLaD to see they're still alive ;-)

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by blhack » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:10 AM UTC

JesseAldridge wrote: post #9

dot wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They mentioned 6000 supporters.

Out of 8 million active users. So 0.075% donated. About one donation per thousand users.

Whoa whoa whoa, I don't think reddit has even close to 8 million active users. I'd say much closer to about 100,000.

The announcement section, which is included by default, and low traffic enough that I doubt anybody unsubscribes, has 300,000 users. Even if they're retaining 30% of their users (and keeping them as active), that still isn't even close to 8 million.

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by donw » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:13 AM UTC

brainlock wrote: post #14

GLaD to see they're still alive ;-)

Why are you still posting when there's science to do?

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by m-photonic » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:16 AM UTC

blhack wrote: post #13

demoon wrote: post #8

Congrats to reddit team, despite some frequent "this is not reddit" remarks here on HN I still love that community. Out of curiosity I just checked compete.com and was disappointed to learn that Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error.

> Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error. Could somebody please explain this sentiment to me? I feel like all the "cool kids" are constantly falling over one another to talk about who hates digg the most. Is there some trove of horrible things that Kevin Rose has done floating around somewhere or something? I used to watch diggnation every week, and he genuinely seemed like an in…

>nobody really cares about youtube comments (they're mostly crap anyway)

This is true for funny 30-second videos with millions of views and the like, but there are plenty of youtube videos on niche subjects that will never accumulate more than a few thousand views, all from like-minded people. The comment threads on these videos are a completely different matter.

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by makmanalp » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:17 AM UTC

blhack wrote: post #13

demoon wrote: post #8

Congrats to reddit team, despite some frequent "this is not reddit" remarks here on HN I still love that community. Out of curiosity I just checked compete.com and was disappointed to learn that Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error.

> Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error. Could somebody please explain this sentiment to me? I feel like all the "cool kids" are constantly falling over one another to talk about who hates digg the most. Is there some trove of horrible things that Kevin Rose has done floating around somewhere or something? I used to watch diggnation every week, and he genuinely seemed like an in…

Where does he say he hates Kevin Rose? Also, The National Enquirer and the New York Times aren't similar in function / category but I can still compare them. (Not to say that that'd be a completely fair analogy to Digg vs Reddit, but you get the idea.)

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by Elite » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:23 AM UTC

blhack wrote: post #13

demoon wrote: post #8

Congrats to reddit team, despite some frequent "this is not reddit" remarks here on HN I still love that community. Out of curiosity I just checked compete.com and was disappointed to learn that Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error.

> Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error. Could somebody please explain this sentiment to me? I feel like all the "cool kids" are constantly falling over one another to talk about who hates digg the most. Is there some trove of horrible things that Kevin Rose has done floating around somewhere or something? I used to watch diggnation every week, and he genuinely seemed like an in…

I'm sure Kevin's a great guy, but his site is not him. I was regular there for a few months and there was a marked decline in link and comment quality. Eventually, I gave up and left. Many people on reddit share the same experience.

But nonetheless, I have never 'hated' on digg. The site has changed and I realize it's not for me anymore. I'm sure there are many users that love it the way it is, just not me.

Re: This was a triumph.

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Post by blhack » Tue, Jul 13, 2010, 6:23 AM UTC

makmanalp wrote: post #18

blhack wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Digg is approximately 8 times as big, lets hope that's the measurement error. Could somebody please explain this sentiment to me? I feel like all the "cool kids" are constantly falling over one another to talk about who hates digg the most. Is there some trove of horrible things that Kevin Rose has done floating around somewhere or something? I used to watch diggnation every week, and he genuinely seemed like an in…

Where does he say he hates Kevin Rose? Also, The National Enquirer and the New York Times aren't similar in function / category but I can still compare them. (Not to say that that'd be a completely fair analogy to Digg vs Reddit, but you get the idea.)

>Where does he say he hates Kevin Rose?

He didn't. Which is exactly why I didn't say or imply that he did. What he did say, and what I did address is expressing sadness that digg is successful. The question about the Kevin Rose hatred was a question about the general dislike for him that a lot of geeks show and was not directed at OP specifically.

>The National Enquirer and the New York Times aren't similar in function / category but I can still compare them.

And I can compare a bottle rocket to a pile of bananas, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a completely and totally worthless comparison.