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Launch HN: NextDrop Technologies (YC S17) – Water Marketplace for Urban India

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Re: Launch HN: NextDrop Technologies (YC S17) – Water Marketplace for Urban India

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Looks like a really good idea. How do you plan on scaling without becoming part of the water mafia (or at least enabling them)? After all, there are only so many independent suppliers with their own water source. Would love to hear you thoughts on this.

I thought of this too. Water is a tricky thing to deal in because it isn't like any other resource. When you sell water to someone, are you also depriving water to someone else? This can easily turn into an ethical minefield if you aren't careful.

This is true- and I'll rephrase what you're saying. What are the environmental impacts of groundwater withdrawals? If someone is withdrawing, who else isn't getting water? These are exceedingly tricky issues, and the sad part is that right now, nobody knows the answer because there is no data to answer these important questions. The first step, which we are implementing from day 1, is to use IoT devices to monitor groundwater withrdawals from our sources. The next critical piece on our product roadmap is creating IoT devices to monitor groundwater levels and using algorithms to estimate groundwater aquifer health. Given that we will be aggregating demand and understand withdrawals, this second piece will be able to estimate our natural resource health in a city for the first time. This technology advancement is critical for not just India, but the world. Once we know which aquifers are depleting the fastest we can try to recharge and use a different aquifers. This is the only way we think the world can start managing groundwater and ensure everyone has enough clean water to drink.

Re: Launch HN: NextDrop Technologies (YC S17) – Water Marketplace for Urban India

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It's almost unimaginable to not have access to clean water sources if you're living in Europe, and especially in Germany where tap water has the upmost quality. So I believe that any solution for this is awesome.

One problem however is that big companies like Nestle or Coca Cola are putting a ton of money in marketing bottled (usually plastic) water which is a gigantic, unecological, unnecessary, and expensive money machine. While I have not been to India myself, I have seen documentations on bottled water in countries like yours. Companies advertise it as the "clean" (despite not so great quality) water, the one you buy when you have money.

Do you have any plans, ambitions, or visions to counter this trend - in particular relying on plastic bottles to ship water? I think you have the opportunity, and maybe soon the market share.

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This sounds interesting, because as someone from the West, I have no concept of what it means to "buy" water. We completely take for granted the fact that every single house has access to clean water. One thing, in SF I am also paying more for water than electricity, it comes out to about $60/month for water and $45/month for electricity.

How do you protect customers from sellers who have poor quality or poisonous water who try to game your system? Do you do water testing as well?

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Great stuff. Just curious do you have any background in environmental science?

I have a background in environmental engineering actually- I did my bachelors and masters in Civil Engineering from UC Berkeley. In undergrad I focused on environmental engineering, and for my masters I focused on sensor technology and how it's changing our built world. It's been a wild ride.

Re: Launch HN: NextDrop Technologies (YC S17) – Water Marketplace for Urban India

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Superb idea. India needs this!

Thank you! My co-founder and I quit our jobs and moved to India 6 years ago, and we've been working in the urban Indian water space since then. We really felt that something needed to be done and we've been on a journey to figure out exactly how we can change the status quo. We appreciate all your support- it means so much!

Re: Launch HN: NextDrop Technologies (YC S17) – Water Marketplace for Urban India

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Looks like a really good idea. How do you plan on scaling without becoming part of the water mafia (or at least enabling them)? After all, there are only so many independent suppliers with their own water source. Would love to hear you thoughts on this.

That's a really good point. We've had to think long and hard about this one too. There's one interesting stat that is less known. Aboout 80% of India runs on groundwater, and in cities, we have estimated that about 50% of the people have their own private water source. BUT- less than 1% sell that water. Now imagine we've used devices to aggregate all demand (phase I). Phase II would be to introduce new supply into th…

> Enabling anyone with a borewell to sell water to anyone else.

What happens when the neighborhood loses its water sources due to overuse?

Re: Launch HN: NextDrop Technologies (YC S17) – Water Marketplace for Urban India

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It's almost unimaginable to not have access to clean water sources if you're living in Europe, and especially in Germany where tap water has the upmost quality. So I believe that any solution for this is awesome. One problem however is that big companies like Nestle or Coca Cola are putting a ton of money in marketing bottled (usually plastic) water which is a gigantic, unecological, unnecessary, and expensive money…

That's a really great point, and bottled water is actually the fastest growing segment of private water in India (growing 30% year over year). My co founder and I have been living in India for the past 6 years and we both own personal home water filters and carry around a reusable water bottle. We are fans of companies like Unilever who are trying to produce low cost water filters for emerging markets. We think that if we can get the cleanest, cheapest water to people, and by eventually partnering with water filter companies, we can tackle the bottled water problem.

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Congratulations on the launch! A lot of households also use water cans, and very often you cannot control the quality, are you planning to address this as well ?

Thank you! And yes, we've definitely thought about this market segment as well. We are actually of the opinion that water can delivery will eventually die out. If you do the math, it's actually more cost effective to buy a water filter for drinking water. Water filtration technology is getting cheaper, more people are buying in home filters, and we're trying to get them the cleanest water possible to their homes.

Re: Launch HN: NextDrop Technologies (YC S17) – Water Marketplace for Urban India

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Great idea, Anu. Congratulations on the launch.

How much does the devices cost? I assume since this is mostly used by apartment complexes, it should not be a problem to convince them to pay one time device cost. But independent house owners would not be willing to pay the device cost, are you also planning for a 'Uber for Water Tankers' style ordering in this scenario?

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