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Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

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Post by rms »

juwo wrote: post #90
rms wrote: post #87

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As an intellectual person, I find blind faith in Christianity outright offensive. It doesn't make any sense to base your world view on the mythology of a Bronze Age people. Honestly, I'm glad that you have the right to spread the good word on your website. But it's so rare I get to interact with a real, live Christian that I delight in the opportunity. Maybe we can both gain something. So let's talk. Why do you belie…

why do you believe that 2+2=4 and not 2+2=5 ?

Because I count two things, and two more things and see that there are four objects. I can observe with my own eyes that mathematics works. You can't ever see God, you have to take on faith that a book written almost 2000 years ago is absolute fact.

So why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all the other gods?

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#92

Post by dpapathanasiou »

juwo wrote: post #88
dpapathanasiou wrote: post #11

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For the BBC demo page, how about isolating the clip you want to show, perhaps surrounded by whitespace, but with a juwo page header? (i.e., make it clear this page still belongs in the juwo site, and you've just sampled a small part of the BBC page) People with ADD like me will start reading the news ticker or some of the other stories (seriously, I had to back up twice to figure out what I supposed to click on!). Al…

"people not running XP and using Java plugins in their browser" were you able to install/run juwo? the BBC demo?

No, I didn't try again after the first attempt.

Could you produce a demo in flash instead of java?

Flash is a must-have browser plugin, whereas java has fallen off the map in that regard.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#93

Post by dpapathanasiou »

juwo wrote: post #27
dpapathanasiou wrote: post #20

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Basically, lose everything from the BBC page except the href to the clip you want to show and put it inside a "juwo" page, consistent with everything else on your site. For a while there, I thought I was at bbcnews.com and I started reading all these extraneous links and photos.

the point is that a visitor to the BBC page would click on the video link, and a juwo of the video would pop up.

Yes, I understand how that would work if juwo were installed and I'm browsing other sites, but copying the entire BBC page is unnecessary, esp. when the only relevant thing from the demo's perspective is that single clip.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#94

Post by juwo »

rms wrote: post #91
juwo wrote: post #90

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why do you believe that 2+2=4 and not 2+2=5 ?

Because I count two things, and two more things and see that there are four objects. I can observe with my own eyes that mathematics works. You can't ever see God, you have to take on faith that a book written almost 2000 years ago is absolute fact. So why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all the other gods?

You obviously pride yourself on being an intellectual, yet you havent even scratched the surface. Think deeper.

The answer lies in the answer to my question.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#95

Post by juwo »

dpapathanasiou wrote: post #92
juwo wrote: post #88

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"people not running XP and using Java plugins in their browser" were you able to install/run juwo? the BBC demo?

No, I didn't try again after the first attempt. Could you produce a demo in flash instead of java? Flash is a must-have browser plugin, whereas java has fallen off the map in that regard.

for a flash demo, do you happen to know if a video playing in a media player on the screen will be captured in screencast?

or is there another tool...

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#96

Post by rms »

juwo wrote: post #94
rms wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I count two things, and two more things and see that there are four objects. I can observe with my own eyes that mathematics works. You can't ever see God, you have to take on faith that a book written almost 2000 years ago is absolute fact. So why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all the other gods?

You obviously pride yourself on being an intellectual, yet you havent even scratched the surface. Think deeper. The answer lies in the answer to my question.

Fine. Mathematics is generally based on so-called "non-logical axioms" -- non proven statements that we accept based on what a person such as yourself would call faith.

Still, I believe in mathematics because it works. Why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all others?

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#97

Post by juwo »

rms wrote: post #96
juwo wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You obviously pride yourself on being an intellectual, yet you havent even scratched the surface. Think deeper. The answer lies in the answer to my question.

Fine. Mathematics is generally based on so-called "non-logical axioms" -- non proven statements that we accept based on what a person such as yourself would call faith. Still, I believe in mathematics because it works. Why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all others?

You're getting the point - that we trust Mathematics even though it involves faith, because there is plenty of correlation to the 'real' world.

Similarly, Jesus is a real person, not an emotional crutch. An absolute truth, not a relative choice. Like 2+2=4 and not 2+2=5.

How do I prove it? Simple. Ask Jesus himself to show that he is real, to you. However when you ask, you cannot have an attitude - otherwise he will ignore you.

"you will seek me and find me when you seek me with all of your heart" [God] (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2029%20:%2013;&version=31)

He himself, will checkmate you.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#98

Post by jey »

juwo wrote: post #97
rms wrote: post #96

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Fine. Mathematics is generally based on so-called "non-logical axioms" -- non proven statements that we accept based on what a person such as yourself would call faith. Still, I believe in mathematics because it works. Why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all others?

You're getting the point - that we trust Mathematics even though it involves faith, because there is plenty of correlation to the 'real' world. Similarly, Jesus is a real person, not an emotional crutch. An absolute truth, not a relative choice. Like 2+2=4 and not 2+2=5. How do I prove it? Simple. Ask Jesus himself to show that he is real, to you. However when you ask, you cannot have an attitude - otherwise he will…

Neither introspection nor emotional experiences reveal truths about external reality. Emotional experiences carried out in the meat computer mounted on top of your torso do not provide any supporting evidence for the existence of Jesus.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#99

Post by ingenium »

juwo wrote: post #97
rms wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine. Mathematics is generally based on so-called "non-logical axioms" -- non proven statements that we accept based on what a person such as yourself would call faith. Still, I believe in mathematics because it works. Why do you believe in the god of the Christians to the exclusion of all others?

You're getting the point - that we trust Mathematics even though it involves faith, because there is plenty of correlation to the 'real' world. Similarly, Jesus is a real person, not an emotional crutch. An absolute truth, not a relative choice. Like 2+2=4 and not 2+2=5. How do I prove it? Simple. Ask Jesus himself to show that he is real, to you. However when you ask, you cannot have an attitude - otherwise he will…

But you still never answered the question of why you have faith in the Christian god as opposed to the gods other religions.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#100

Post by juwo »

juwo wrote: post #89
yaacovtp wrote: post #85

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Because they turn many people away. You asked for our feedback and several people made a big deal about it. Listen to us, trust us, your project needs all the help it can get. Don't make more reasons to turn people away.

Here is why I put that controversial paragraph: "Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns [is ashamed of] me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven." [Jesus] http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010:32-... ;

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