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The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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Re: The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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> Now, fellers can earn as little as $18 an hour. So they get paid a little more than someone serving burgers in California but have to deal with much more remote, skilled, difficult, dangerous work. I'm getting really tired of articles posing this sort of thing as a "labor shortage".

Right? What the hell did this industry think was going to happen if they busted up unions and insisted on paying pittance for one of the most dangerous jobs in the world?

Re: The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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Surprised this wasn't title "Millenials killed the logging industry"

As the sole representative of everyone aged 8 till 40, I would say we are turning a new leaf here.

I feel like this is an outreach problem more than anything. Recruit at high schools and job fairs and you'll get bodies.

Re: The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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post #7

> Now, fellers can earn as little as $18 an hour. So they get paid a little more than someone serving burgers in California but have to deal with much more remote, skilled, difficult, dangerous work. I'm getting really tired of articles posing this sort of thing as a "labor shortage".

They would have a significantly lower cost of living. So they should be able to save much more.

Lower cost of living _and_ lower quality of life. People, believe it or not, are actually weighing that in their job hunting equation these days.

Re: The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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post #7

> Now, fellers can earn as little as $18 an hour. So they get paid a little more than someone serving burgers in California but have to deal with much more remote, skilled, difficult, dangerous work. I'm getting really tired of articles posing this sort of thing as a "labor shortage".

They would have a significantly lower cost of living. So they should be able to save much more.

Also, their likelihood of dying young is among the highest in the developed world, so they may not need to save at all! What a deal.

Re: The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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I don't know too much about the industry except that it can be incredibly dangerous, especially with the sophisticated machinery. I knew somebody who impaled himself--he wasn't paying well enough attention (so I was told) and drove a tree trunk right into his cabin and into his abdomen. Miraculous that he survived, last I heard he was still packing and disinfecting a gaping open wound a year after the incident.

I don't think he received nearly as much training as described in the article. And IIRC he hadn't been on the job for more than a few months. But this was in Alabama, where workers are disposable.

Re: The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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This sounds like yet another market problem being blamed on "millennials". If you pay enough I'd imagine some people would take the job. If you can't pay enough, then I guess the market is speaking to you about the long term outlook for logging.

I don't blame people for not flocking to an extremely dangerous and grueling job only to be underpaid. There's plenty of other options. I get tired of older generations somehow trying to guilt trip us into continuing in their line of work when in reality those jobs weren't very good to begin with. Work smarter not harder. Maybe they never heard of that.

Re: The job no one wants: young people won't work in logging

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When even a left-wing outlet like The Guardian is willing to uncritically echo capital's BS about "labor shortages" when the real cause is a lack of willingness to pay real wages, you know we're in trouble.

Seriously, $18/hr. for the most dangerous job in the country? I'd tell those people to get fucked.

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